Re: Red Rattlers be damned!

[rogerlloyd@my-deja.com]

Yes, you are right concerning the Bradfield
wooden cars, but I maintain that the term "red
Rattlers" did not come into use in Sydney until
well after the Bradfield cars had been withdrawn.
Another reply mentioned the term being in use in
1984 when he drove them - yes, this is the time
the name seemed to take hold.
Regards
Roger

In article <3A6CFDED.5A5C1899@zip.com.au>,
  Roy Marshall <marsh@zip.com.au> wrote:
> Did you ever ride in any of the old wooden
Bradfield cars when you lived
> in Sydney? Maybe not or you would have seen the
similarity to Taits in
> seeing the wooden panels move in different
directions..
>
> Cheers Roy
>
> Roger Lloyd wrote:
> >
> > As an expat NSW railfan living in Victoria
for the past 28 years, I object
> > to the NSW press and some misguided railfans
calling the old single decker
> > electric cars "red rattlers". This is a term
unfortunately stolen from
> > Victoria where it was used (quite correctly)
to describe the Tait cars on
> > the Melbourne suburban system - believe me,
they did rattle and shake! They
> > had two sliding doors for each compartment
(one each side) and loose fitting
> > windows and, like the old P class Sydney
trams, really required some form of
> > diagonal bracing to stiffen them up. When
they started to move, the
> > underframe moved first and the roof followed,
if you get what I mean. By
> > comparison, the Sydney Leeds type cars were
steel bodied and gave a firm and
> > solid ride and DID NOT RATTLE!!! With their
high seat backs they were more
> > comfortable than Tangaras and newer stock.
> > Roger Lloyd
>



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