"James C." <james_ccj@my-deja.com> wrote in message 8ubeaq$c48$1@nnrp1.deja.com">news:8ubeaq$c48$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > NZ is just as cold as Victoria and no one on the other side of Tasman > sea complain..... They cuddle up to Baaaaaabara.