Re: 4D (again)

["Hubert Lam" <hubert@imap4.com>]

I think I saw Railway Rasputin II post something on some "essential wiring" that goes through the
driver's compartment "box".

I was surprised too when I first started taking interest in Sydney's system because there were 2
people working one train whereas in Hong Kong (where i came from) there was only one. For the MTR
(undergriound) system, all the platforms were straight and that's OK but for the KCR (Kowloon-Canton
Railway) their trains were 13 cars long (around 13 of our V set cars!!!! and they're not
superstitious) with one driver but also has CCTV and station attendants (similar to what we have in
sydney, the people with the white flag!) and that works just as well.


What they don't have is intercity services running on electricity (the mainland's still in the steam
age, bear in mind!) so there'll haev to be guards for the diesel trains that roar through.

"Michael Kurkowski" <mk@netstra.com.au> wrote in message
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> Hubert Lam <hubert@imap4.com> said:
>
> >It can be done when all the S, C, K and V sets are scrapped and all new
> >Millennium trains used in the sytem. (to the experts...the sets i
> >mentioned are NOT DOO are they!)
>
> Why does it have to wait for that? Melbourne went DOOM 7 years ago now,
> utilising current rollingstock. Both Comengs and Hitachis had a box
> enclosing the driver. Hitachis had a hole cut out while the Comengs had a
> door removed. Later cab mods made the cab a full open layout, much like the
> T sets and 4D. AFAIK, Hitachis also had guages and a number of switches,
> which in due course were relocated.
>
> For curved platforms, large secure boxes with 4 monitors inside, together
> with a number of cameras will allow the driver to see all 8 cars. Remember,
> Melbourne 6 car sets are not too much shorter than an 8 car tangara
> (between 10-20 metres only - about one car length) - V sets are another
> story, and guards should be retained for Intercity purposes anyway.
>
> I'm not an economic rationalist, far from it, but guards have been proven
> to be a waste. Wouldn't the money be better spent on ways of increasing the
> reliability of the system?
>
> Once again, the guard debate starts...
>
> Regards
>
> Michael
>
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