Re: [NSW] Who's got the worst trains

[The Railway Rasputin II <bob@fastlink.com.au>]

Well if there is less rolling stock there will be more passengers ......
More on each carriagethat is.

Geoff Lambert wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:02:02 +1100, Ben <sporologist@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >David Johnson wrote:
> >> Hubert Lam wrote:
> >> > Then it forgets that CityRail does not carry 730,000 passengers per day, but rather it's 730,000
> >> > journeys made by all the people per day. I doubt that one fourth of Sydney's population travels on
> >> > trains each day!
> >> I was under the impression that we carried closer to 900,000 passengers/day.
> >730,000 is the average of all days.
> >900,000+ is the average for a weekday during school terms, as far as I
> >know. i.e. public holidays, weekends and school holidays aren't counted.
> >But I'm not completely sure about the school holidays part.
> >Ben Munro
> 
> In this mornoing's SMH, a set of data and graphs in a side-box says:
> Number of customers: 270.5 million
> Total passenger journeys: 199.8 million
> 
> The first is explicitly a yearly total, it corresponds with what
> Citryrail reports as "total passenger journeys" in its annual report.
> The latter is equal to "number of customers", if you count a customer
> every time a person hops on a train. If I go to work on a train and
> come home again on it, I'm two customers.  And another two tomorrow.
> 
> The second is (presumably), the same figure reduced to a Monday -
> Friday, non holiday basis (199.8/270.5 = 5/7 approx).
> 
> The second figure is boken down into
> Daily 103.1 million
> Weekly 87.9 million
> Periodical 8.8 million
> 
> The first is likely to be the most accurate, as it can be derived from
> ticket sales figures- one single sale, one single trip.  The two
> latter have to be estimated from sales figures combined with estimates
> of how often people use their multi-trip tickets, plus also, if you're
> lucky, some tally figures from the turnstiles. "Weeklies" used to be
> "periodicals", nowadays the latter are presumably quarterly/yearly,
> etc. (can you buy multi-trips for trains like you can for ferries and
> buses?)
> 
> Carl Scully is blaming "a big increase in customer numbers", but the
> data doesn't support this.  Suburban train passenger journeys are
> about what they were in 1950, they were lowest in the late 70s/early
> 80s.  They have risen from 264.7 million in 96/97 to 270.5 million in
> 98/99, a 2% increase.  There was a time (early 90s), when figures were
> this high, or higher (it was either 268m or 286m, don't have my
> spreadsheet with me).  The 1950s figures did not include Blue Mtns,
> Newcastle or Wollonongong travel, these account for a few million,
> approx 5m?
> 
> Geoff Lambert