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Re: [NSW] Carl Scully: "Everytime you buy a train ticket..."



Irrespective of the GST what is going on now ,under the current fare system
is not what we are paying for:
1.late services and to compensate trains missing stations(without
communication.
2.train drivers and controllers making there own rules ,kiiling people 3.
dirty overlayden services
4. mugging of customers when there are people paid to protect them not
knowing what is going on.
5. trains running off the lines by employees incompedience.
6.ranting responsible politicans who rarely go near the trains blaming
someone else.
These are the things politicans should be worried about.

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"C. Dewick" <craigd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote in message
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> "Hubert Lam" <hubert@imap4.com> writes:
>
> >"...John Howard's got his hands in your pocket"
>
> >Bullshit. It was the states that agreed to the GST...and the money goes
back
> >to the states!!!
>
> Remember the Booz-Allen and Hamilton report which back in the late 1980's
> recommended fair rises around 30 percent in order to cover CityRail's
> operating expenses with little or no government subsidisation?
>
> Just say that the government decided to make CityRail depend on itself for
> revenue and not give it any financial help, and CityRail said that to
cover
> their running costs fares needed to rise by about 40 percent? What would
you
> say then?
>
> The GST *is* going to impact on fares because presently there is no 'tax'
on
> fares. It doesn't matter where it goes, or who it goes to. The simple fact
> that prior to June 30th there will have never been a sales tax on
transport
> fares, and from July 1st there will be a GST, is the real issue here. So
> people are going to cry poormouth, but the very point of a GST is that is
> should be applied to everything to make it work - with no exceptions.
>
> The fact that the damned lobby groups have forced the government to exempt
> some items is ludicrous because the system now has to be re-inforced to
> correct the imbalances caused by the stupid exemptions.
>
> If transport fares were excluded from the GST, where does all that equity
> balance out? Basically the ammount of money involved with preventing the
GST
> applying to transport fares would cause such a large imbalance in tax
> revenue flow that eventually a point is reached where so little money is
> coming in via the GST compared to what is going out from the federal
reserve
> that the economy will break down.
>
> You've got to look beyond the issue of why the fares are going up and look
> at the new tax system as a whole to work out the flow-on effects of saying
> that transport fares should not be rising by 11 percent (and thereby
> implying that they should be exempted from the GST). The same people who
are
> complaining now would still complain about the 2 percent inflation-based
> increase, so it's a rather pointless debate IMHO.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig.
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