Re: Difference between CLF & CLP loco's?

["< Tell >" <telljb@01.ozemail.com.au>]

"Garry Hoddinett" <hoddos@netspace.net.au> wrote:
> >
> I think the CLP class had a supplementary power generator added to provide
> head end power for passenger rolling stock.  However, if I can recall
> correctly, it was still found to be inadequate to replace the power vans on
> the Indian Pacific & the Ghan.  Consequently, these trains still had to run
> with power vans and there was no advantage in using the CLP class over other
> locomotive types.  With their EMD F7 type nose and their different colour
> scheme they looked good at the front of Australian Nationals passenger
> trains recalling the halcyon days of passenger trains!
> 


Yes, they did have HEP installed.
Just about the best looking pass loco ever anywhere in
the World, ......of course I am biased. :) 

The original CL class was something that even the Yanks
never had, the nose of a classic GM diesel with the
mansard roof and full car body of their later
incarnations.
 
The idea of the later CLP was good, the problem was the
implementation was not so good.  Big reliability
problems, but I think Clyde who built the originals
have sorted out the MK rebuilds since then for ASR, 
of course, I stand corrected.

The WAGR L class and the CR CL class were way before
the rest of Oz knew what a high horsepower loco was.!
Nah, ....you can have your 80 whatever, C whatever.
  
Out where the long heavy haul was a reality, the L's &
CL's were legend.  Anything from NSW and Vic was just a
follow on, but then, they along with a previous federal
government, finished up determining what we have today.

----Tell
Alice Springs
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