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Re: Locomotives and heat/cold
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Richard Fisheris wrote:
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> G'day Wayne
> I am hopefully replying directly to your E-mail and not on the forum. As
> a former SRA NSW DELEC Driver I wanted to point out the fact that opening
> doors etc was frowned upon by the department for a number of reasons.
>
> 1) The engine compartment is supposed to be sealed for air filtration.
>
> 2) The engine compartment is designed to be sealed for cooling purposes.
>
> 3) The engine is fitted with a thermostat and over temp cut-outs and
> these are meant to protect the engine.
> There are standard operating procedures if a unit FAILS due to overheating,
> which if followed, allow units to be moved out of the section in the event
> of such an occurence, without causing irreperable damage! A more likely
> reason for the door(s) being left
> open was usually not shut during the engine preparation [Slackness], and
> occasionally
> there were faulty doors, which were supposed to be booked in the units Log
> Book,
> and the next time the unit went in for periodic inspection in the shed
> supposedly fixed
> by the fitters. There were are a lot of drivers on "The Job" who considered
> themselves
> better Engineers than those at ALCO or GM/EMD and hence didn't follow the
> rules set
> out by them, which consequently caused damage to units and great cost to
> the dept.
> Drivers found to be in contempt of rules & regs could be found doing
> extended shifts
> of Shed work, sometimes suspended and always Bunged (fined). Hence the
> average
> Driver loathed railway photographers, because it is not unknown for photos
> to be
> used as evidence of misdemeanours such as leaving doors open. Recently there
> was
> a comment about railway officialdom availing themselves of another possible
> avenue
> of info (read spying) when accessing Aus Loco, which is why I have contacted
> you, and hopefully not the list. I would not be surprised if the dept hasn't
> used the info posted, particularly times, to check up on drivers and late or
> early running of trains.
> In parting I would like to say that I do not wish to be Quoted, but if
> these remarks were
> to be posted anonymously without reference to myself, some of the less
> thinking list
> subscribers might realise that if they asked fewer silly questions and
> stopped big
> note-ing! themselves, they might learn something and not cause offence. Ever
> wondered why there aren't too many postings from real Enginemen.
> Yours Sincerely
>
> P.S. 80 Class ALCO's were notorious for overheating out West, and this in my
> opinion, was attributable to the units being designed when ALCO(Aust) were
> going Broke and the railways at Chullora had to finish the Job! The 80 class
> also suffered from sagging Chassis, which may have had an effect on the car
> body and a possible consequence to sealing and hence cooling.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Coleman, Wayne <COLEMANW@phibred.com.au>
> To: 'Aus loco discussion mailing list' <Ausloco@listbot.com>
> Date: Friday, February 04, 2000 2:39 PM
> Subject: RE: Locomotives and heat/cold
>
> >Aus loco discussion mailing list
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> >Some of the early NSW loco's di not like the heat very much. The 47's come
> >immediately to mind and of course they were sent to western NSW to work.
> >There are many photos of 47's on trains with the tops of the hoods opened
> up
> >to allow air movement.
> >
> >Wayne Coleman
> >Lucerne/Canola Seed Production Agronomist
> >colemanw@phibred.com <mailto:colemanw@phibred.com>
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Haby Steven [mailto:Haby@acer.edu.au]
> >Sent: Friday, 4 February 2000 14:28
> >To: 'Aus loco discussion mailing list'
> >Subject: Locomotives and heat/cold
> >
> >
> >Aus loco discussion mailing list
> >
> >Afternoon all,
> >
> >With temperatures soaring in S Aust and Vic (and Victoria with power
> >restrictions/blackouts) a technical, yet timely, question is how well do
> >various classes/types of locomotives fare in extremely hot and/or humid
> >conditions.
> >
> >I'd be interested if anyone had anecdotal evidence of locomotive
> performance
> >in extreme weather conditions, e.g. NSU/NTs on the NAR/CR, 39 class
> >electrics in FNQ, NRs across the Nullabor and so on.
> >
> >The venerable VR T class I believe suffered from extreme cold and frozen
> >radiators.
> >
> >Do electric locomotives suffer as much in the heat as say a diesel,
> >particularly with the big fans they have to keep the traction
> motors/engines
> >cool.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Steven Haby
> >In a very hot Melbourne
> >
> >
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