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Re: 80th anniversary of suburban electrification



The definitive work relating to the Melbourne Electric Street Railways was
"The Brighton Electric Line - The story of Melbourne's Bayside Tramways" by
Leon Marshall-Wood, published by Traction Publications in 1956, 1958 and a
revised and enlarged edition in 1966.

Cheers
John Wayman

<jdennis@acslink.net.au> wrote in message
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> I said:
>
> JD: Not according to all of us.  David Bromage insists that the tram
> JD: from St Kilda to Brighton was a railway, and hence electric railways
> JD: in the suburbs existed way before 1919.   :-)
>
> Rod Smith said:
> RBS: But the private railway from St Kilda to Brighton was not
> RBS: electrified.
>
> David Bromage added:
> DB: That's not quite what I insisted. There was a private railway from
> DB: St Kilda to Brighton before it was a tramway, owned by one
> DB: incarnation of the Mebourne & Hobson's Bay (United?) Railway
> DB: Company. However, VR did count its tramways as electric railways.
>
> David Langley said in two postings to the same thread:
> DL: Please refer to it as an Electric Street Railway, its correct title.
>
> DL: And, if I'm not mistaken, the private railway is mostly still in
> DL: existence i.e. Windsor to Brighton Beach and is now electrified.
>
> Now, there seems to be some confusion here, in more than one direction.
>
> I was under the impression that the line from St Kilda through Elwood to
> Brighton - which became a VR tramline or Electric Street Railway was in
> fact originally promulgated as such.  An Electric Street Railway.  Hence
> my somewhat tongue in cheek remarks about electric *railways* existing
> in the suburbs of Melbourne prior to 1919.  (There was a smiley).  I am
> certainly prepared to admit I was wrong if indeed it was a steam railway
> first, and being broad gauge it certainly is a possibility.
>
> I was not talking about the St Kilda-Windsor-Brighton line, which now
> forms the Sandrigham line beyond Windsor, and has been long dismantled
> between St Kilda and Windsor.
>
> I would be pleased to read about the history of what became the Victoria
> Railways "Electric Street Street Railway" from St Kilda to Brighton -
> unfortunately my "VR to 62" is securely stored in my archives.
>
> Cheers...JD
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