Richard wrote in message <38497DF5.AFB96021@primus.com.au>... [GLENWOOD] some answers please AFAIK, there is no such place as Glenwood. But then, I did hear a radio news reader make it "Glenville". If we're thinking of a place between Emu Plains and Blaxland, the gradient from 57.2Km to Blaxland is 1 in 60 (except that it eases to 1 in 100 through Glenbrook station). Rgds Bill