Re: Head on in the Western district

["Exnarc" <gwrly@netspace.net.au>]

Maurie Daly <mauried@commslab.gov.au> wrote in message
mauried.488.3845E035@commslab.gov.au">news:mauried.488.3845E035@commslab.gov.au...
> In article <824ega$gb5$1@news1.mpx.com.au> "Dave Proctor"
<daproc@spambait.umpires.com> writes:
> >From: "Dave Proctor" <daproc@spambait.umpires.com>
> >Subject: Re: Head on in the Western district
> >Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:24:59 +1100
>
> >Reece Isaac <throttle@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
> >news:38427D4F.B61AB5DF@alphalink.com.au...
>
> >> Don't you realize that drivers will always have to have route specific
> >> knowledge!  It's called by those that do it 'ROADS AND SIGNALS'!  Just
> >> to drive a train on a track a driver has to be schooled on the route
> >> (and I don't mean just the safe working systems) I mean learning the
> >> track, the hills the dips where to power where to drift where to brake.
> >> That is special knowledge and it has to learned.
>
> >Yep - we all know that. But having a uniform standard of safeworking,
> >Australia-wide - would make that easier.
>
> >At the moment, a Sydney NR driver transferring to Melbourne has to
relearn
> >all of the safeworking as well as the road. If the safeworking was the
same,
> >he would only have to learn the road.
>
> >--
> >DaveProctor
> >thadocta AT dingoblue.net.au
>
>
> Its also worth wondering about the requirement to "know the road."
> If we delete the safeworking system on the basis that we have uniform
national
> safeworking systems that everyone knows , then the issue is whether we can
> implement a scheme of indications to provide sufficient road knowledge to
a
> driver who doesnt know the road to allow him / her to safely (maybe not
> efficiently) drive a train over an unknown line.
>
> Such indications would be comprehensive speed boards, indications of
presence
> of level crossings, indications of forthcoming crossing stations etc.
> Realistically , I cant see any fundamental reasons why not.
> Speed boards, level crossing indicators already exist, and I note that NSW
is
> starting to introduce location boards.
>
> Its also worth noting that Rails competitors, namely road , sea and to a
> lesser extent air , all operate without a mandatory requirement to "know
the
> road."
> All thats required is a qualification / endorsement , on the vehicle being
> operated,not on where its going.
>
>
> MD
>
Maurie,

I was going to give you credit for having an above average knowledge of
Safeworking & Signalling. Your suggestions on National Standards for these
has merit, but when you start talking about Drivers running trains over
tracks they have never learnt (or viewed) shatters my illusion.

Stick to Safeworking etc whilst your in front, leave the training to the
experts.

Bob.

My mind is still trying to rap its self around the idea of a new Driver to
the district bringing 4,000+ tonnes of steel down to Belair from Lofty just
using standard signs and speed boards. FUUUUUUU#K.