you never stop do you?
>tezza@atinet.com.au mumbled
>
>
>>>Monthly fees are dropping, only the rip-offs still charge for downloads.
>
>>Unfortunately, for the ISP's, most of the wholsale providers charge by data
>>used, since it's pretty useless to charge for time when they are
>essentially
>>connected to the internet for the month. Unfortunately for the ISP users,
>the
>>ISP has to pass their costs onto the user, and if say a user on an
>unlimited
>>account wastes bandwidth, this costs the ISP more, and if they are losing
>>money, the monthly 'unlimited' fees are risen.
>>There is nothing for nothing in this world.
>
>
>
>The fact that monthly fees are dropping rather than increasing, disproves
>your theory. Bandwidth is increasing all the time as more resources are
>allocated.
>
>
Be shocked...
Look at:
1) http://www.telstra.net/pricesnew.htm - also note that most ISP's are using
more than a 64kbps link, hence would be using 128kbps or higher. Also notice
that these "unlimited" options also include utilisation limits, where you are
only allowed to use a percentage of the "theoretical monthly limit" before you
get charged more.
2)
http://info.connect.com.au/www.connect.com.au/products/access/permanent/index.h
tml - once again, take note under "Our Offer" only 64kbps has an unlimited
option, once again how many ISP's use 64kbps, unless they are very small or
have a limited amount of lines (less than 15 to be speed effective, especially
since the birth of 56kbps modems)
These are the main two bandwidth providers that have their pricing online, or
any indication of how their pricing works. Access One for a fact also has usage
based pricing, or at least last time it was on their page (since the ozemail
takover there have been many changes). Unfortunately for you mr tezza, this is
proof that you are wrong. The main reason to cause ISP's to drop their prices
is COMPETITION. There are many new ISP's starting out, and the more there are,
the more COMPETITION there is. Most are prepared to make the sacrifice of a few
dollars to get more customers if it's going to mean more money in the long run.
Time charged ISP's are an option for many people because they do not use the
internet enough to warrant paying more for an unlimited provider, and when the
premium price providers are charging hourly, they can afford more bandwidth,
therefore are faster than most unlimited providers. Now you cannot doubt that
an ISP like Bigpond, OzEmail, Access One, Enternet would be faster than most
backyard and/or unlimited providers. My main reason for using an unlimited
provider is that i use the internet for at least 100 hours or more in a month.
It is more economic this way.
Sorry everyone else for posting irrelevant crap in aus.rail but i figured i
needed to get the facts straight. Tezza, a hint for the future, if you want to
argue someones point, at least provide evidence of such.
Regards. Michael
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