Re: Responses to Postings

tezza (tezza@atinet.com.au)
Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:40:33 +1000

Michael Kurkowski whilst still complaining about bandwith and still
begetting more unneccesay posts wrote in message
<6hk0ho$81v$1@newsource.ihug.co.nz>...
>In article <6hj2u3$ci5$1@nswpull.telstra.net>, tezza@atinet.com.au mumbled
>something about...

>>Michael Kurkowski <#NOSPAM#simcard@tig.com.au> whilst wasting more of his
>>precious bandwith dribled

>you never stop do you?

Stop whinging and you'll hear no more from me on the subject.

>>tezza@atinet.com.au mumbled

>>>>Monthly fees are dropping, only the rip-offs still charge for downloads.

>>>Unfortunately, for the ISP's, most of the wholsale providers charge by
data
>>>used, since it's pretty useless to charge for time when they are
>>essentially
>>>connected to the internet for the month. Unfortunately for the ISP users,
>>the
>>>ISP has to pass their costs onto the user, and if say a user on an
>>unlimited
>>>account wastes bandwidth, this costs the ISP more, and if they are losing
>>>money, the monthly 'unlimited' fees are risen.
>>>There is nothing for nothing in this world.

>>The fact that monthly fees are dropping rather than increasing, disproves
>>your theory. Bandwidth is increasing all the time as more resources are
>>allocated.

>Be shocked...
>Look at:
>1) http://www.telstra.net/pricesnew.htm - also note that most ISP's are
using
>more than a 64kbps link, hence would be using 128kbps or higher. Also
notice
>that these "unlimited" options also include utilisation limits, where you
are
>only allowed to use a percentage of the "theoretical monthly limit" before
you
>get charged more.

>2)
>http://info.connect.com.au/www.connect.com.au/products/access/permanent/ind
ex.h
>tml - once again, take note under "Our Offer" only 64kbps has an unlimited
>option, once again how many ISP's use 64kbps, unless they are very small or
>have a limited amount of lines (less than 15 to be speed effective,
especially
>since the birth of 56kbps modems)

>These are the main two bandwidth providers that have their pricing online,
or
>any indication of how their pricing works. Access One for a fact also has
usage
>based pricing, or at least last time it was on their page (since the
ozemail
>takover there have been many changes). Unfortunately for you mr tezza, this
is
>proof that you are wrong. The main reason to cause ISP's to drop their
prices
>is COMPETITION. There are many new ISP's starting out, and the more there
are,
>the more COMPETITION there is. Most are prepared to make the sacrifice of a
few
>dollars to get more customers if it's going to mean more money in the long
run.
>Time charged ISP's are an option for many people because they do not use
the
>internet enough to warrant paying more for an unlimited provider, and when
the
>premium price providers are charging hourly, they can afford more
bandwidth,
>therefore are faster than most unlimited providers. Now you cannot doubt
that
>an ISP like Bigpond, OzEmail, Access One, Enternet would be faster than
most
>backyard and/or unlimited providers. My main reason for using an unlimited
>provider is that i use the internet for at least 100 hours or more in a
month.
>It is more economic this way.

>Sorry everyone else for posting irrelevant crap in aus.rail but i figured i
>needed to get the facts straight. Tezza, a hint for the future, if you want
to
>argue someones point, at least provide evidence of such.

>Regards. Michael

--
----------------------------------------------------------+
>|   Mr Michael Kurkowski.      Email: simcard@tig.com.au   |
>|       Snail Mail: P.O. Box 337 Glenroy, Vic 3046         |
>|              Web: http://simcard.base.org                |
>|   Phone: 0412-044-123    International +61-412-044-123   |
>+----------------------------------------------------------+
>                 -=#[EOF godzilla.sig]#=-
>