Re: Patricks Train

Eben Levy (ebenlevy@klever.net.au)
Sat, 11 Apr 1998 04:12:59 +1000

tezza wrote:

> Eben Levy wrote in message <352E4AEE.59A4D82B@klever.net.au>...
> >
> >
> >tezza wrote:
>
> >> >>A small sacrifice to pay to stop the government and big business
> from
> >> >>driving down Worker's pay and conditions even more than has
> happened
> >> for the last 10 to 15 years already.
>
> >> >You really are a nut!
>
> >> And you're a fucking parasitic idiot!
>
> >Now, that was not called for, I thought it was rahter funny. You should
> >learn not to use offensive language as there are minors that read this
> >group.
>
> An insult begets an insult. I didn't think it was funny. There's nothing
> here they won't already know - and probably use.

But haven't you heard of setting a good example?

>
>
> >Please refrain from insulting people in this news group.
>
> I only react, I don't instigate.

But reaction causes half of the problem. That then *INSTIGATES* more
insults.

>
>
> >That statement did
> >not need a smily face on it either to know he was only having fun with
> you
> >(you know what I am talking about).
>
> I didn't think so.

RE; privite e-mail, nothing in that couldn't have been aired out her where
it started and you wanted to take it further.

>
>
> >> >I know that I am not prepared to lose pay
>
> >> You're the sort of bloke who'd scab on his mates.
> >
> >Well, someone has to do the work otherwise this country would fall
> down.
>
> So you support scabs?

If the need be.

>
>
> >> > over bludgers who were being paid over $70,000 pa on average for
> less
> >> than 35hours a week work.
>
> >> Show us some proof, the media haven't been able to.
>
> >Cause it is the media.
>
> If the media could prove their claims they certainly would to get more
> mileage out of it. It always sells more papers/gets better ratings to
> attack the Unions and Workers, no matter how false the claims are.

But that is they way the media works, and don't forget, this is part of the
media also.

>
>
> >> >It is exactly the same situation that occurred with the
> >> >removal of the second person from the XPT's and the removal of the
> >> >brake-van! Efficiencies had to be made, the union screamed foul, it
> >> didn't have to happen, the jobs were essential, etc. Several years of
> running
> >> has proven the union wrong.
>
> >> The AFULE was doing it's job - trying to protect the jobs of Workers.
> >> The many delays and accidents since that a manned brake-van could
> have
> >> avoided prove the Union was right. The sleep study being done for the
> >> last couple of years will prove the Union right on the XPT too.
>
> >But what about all the stuff ups caused by a guard?
>
> Examples?

Yes please.

>
>
> >all the shit they gave driver?
>
> Relevance?

Can't blame it all on other poeple, soon there will only be the driver and
he'll have to be responsible for everything.

>
>
> >Also what about the drivers been in the wrong?
>
> If WB/non-WB was relevant then there's a possibility the guard could
> have prevented it.

Nothing can 100% prevent anything.

>
>
> > EX. derailment at hard. You telling me that this wouldn't have
> happened if there was a guard?
>
> In English please.

Sorry, I left some out, i'll rewrite it for some poeple.EXAMPLE, derailment
at Hardon. Are you telling me that this would not have happened if there was
a guard on that train?

>
>
> >If the railways abolish a position, they give the workers an option to
> >transfer.
>
> There's still a loss of a position. They only positions they create are
> for more non-income producing parasites in head offices.

Well, The SRA has just abolished some permanent pasitions in country link, I
now know of seven new positions created by this.

>
>
> >> >We have already seen in Brisbane that trainee wharfies are moving
> >> containers at a higher rate than the bludgers who have just been
> sacked.
>
> >> Where on earth did you get that bullshit from? The reported rates in
> >> Brisbane were 10 per hour. In Fremantle 6 in 5 hours!
>
> >Well, each sector operates to a different capacity. over in frementle,
> they
> >might be able to handle as many containers per hour as in Brisbane. If
> they
> >did, the workers should be sacked for not doing an efficeiant job.
>
> You want them to sack the filthy scabs?

No, because they are willing to work when the others aren't.

>
>
> >> >Patrick will win this one, and Australia will be a better place for
> it.
>
> >> I don't think they will. If they do we can all put our heads between
> our
> >> legs and kiss our arses goodbye and wait for the crashlanding.
>
> >Shouldn't you be kissing your union boss' arse instead?
>
> Why do you always resort to uncalled for insults? Fuck off!

This wasn't mean't to be an insult, I was meaning, you would be kissing his
arse to help keep you in the job.And mind the language please.

>
>
> > well, airlines survive after having suffered from crashes.
>
> Planes crash, not airlines. I'm talking about the whole country
> crashing.

Yes but it still dents the company. Well, if we have poeple who refuse to do
other then what the union wants, the country *WILL* crash.

--
Bye for now,
Eben.

http://www.klever.net.au/~ebenlevy/