Re: Another City Rail Signalling Question

David Proctor (daproc@bigfoot.com)
Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:12:12 +1000

MarkBau1 wrote in message
<1998040518212601.OAA09792@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>In case you hadn't noticed, this thread is developing into a discussion on
>speed proving in general, not just about one signal in Sydney. In case you
>hadn't noticed this is the "aus rail" ng not the Sydney ng. It is common in
>ng's for a thread to drift a little from its original form.

True - but the original query was about Wynyard, and you didn't drift, you
took an almighty leap when you went to discuss Victorian methods.

>I did not infer that the speed proving speed was not fixed. (its a good
idea to
>read and understand someones post before shooting your mouth off)

Hmmmm - i (and about 5 other people I showed a print out of your posting to)
all inferred the same as David did - we must ALL be stupid (although there
are 5 university degrees amongst that lot, and one is an English teacher, so
I don't think so) or your posting was not as clear as you thought it was.

>Braking rates are VERY relevant. If the speed proving is set so that our
"worst
>braking" train will get tripped doing 10kph (or whatever speed) it follows
that
>a better braking train could be doing 20 kph, easily able to stop at the
>signal, but still get tripped.

ALL low-speed signals in Sydney are set for the same speed - so it doesn't
matter if the train has the best braking in the world - if the regulations
say that the train must not exceed a certain speed when approaching a signal
displaying a certain aspect, then it doesn't matter if it has braking that
will allow it to travel faster than this in safety.

>You mentioned that: "This way, the driver
>knows if he is doing a certain speed, he will not be tripped." Great, lets
say
>there are a couple of hundred speed proving trips installed, all set at
varying
>speeds, you expect a driver to remember each and every one?

In Sydney, they are all set for the same speed.

>If you ever qualify as a driver what I just posted will make a lot more
sense
>to you!

I showed this posting to two drivers - one is an ETR driver (Sydney
suburban), the other interurban - they don't have the faintest idea what you
are on about.

Regards

David "The Doctor" Proctor
daproc@bigfoot.com