> Mick Stock wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> 7.47 Flinders St Limited Express 1 (Limited Express actually
> should read Express To Burnley, Richmond - Not wide enough to display
> thus use "Limited Express" for commuters to guess the stopping
> condition)
>
It is interesting to see the 9:17 Belgrave train from Flinders Street at
stations like Glenferrie. The PID (whatever) thing says "Express Service" This
is because the stopping conditions for the train is Flinders Street, Richmond,
Glenferrie, Camberwell, Box Hill, Blackburn, Mitcham, Ringwood, Boronia, Upper
Ferntree Gully, and Belgrave. The PID thing lists the stations ie stops xxx,
xxx and xxx only.
> Actually, the P.T.C. would prefer Belgrave/Lilydale line commuters
> wishing to use Loop stations to change at Flinders Street. This is due
> to expected congestion at Richmond as Caulfield loop trains would take
> loop passengers from Sandringham, and Burnley group lines!! Perhaps
> those who travelled through Richmond during AM peak can let us know the
> extent of congestion at Richmond.
>
A lot of people go off the train at Richmond (from Ringwood) and as all trains
going direct have to go into Platform 7 during these works to get to the
Caulfield lines, they went and stood waiting for a train to come into Platform
8. The station PA then told them to go to platform 5 or 3 for a City loop
train.
> There are no weekend "temporary" timetable available for Burnley Group
> because the running time remain unchanged for stations between
> Alamain/Belgrave/Lilydale and Richmond. The major change to these
> timetables is no down (outbound) trains run via the City Loop, thus
> leave FSS eight minutes than the previous timetable, but pick up the
> normal running time from Richmond onwards. Oh for those railfans, there
> are some routing alterations, too.
>
There are. I have in my little hand four temp. timetables.
1. Belgrave/Lilydale Weekdays (Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu and Fri)
2. Belgrave/Lilydale Weekends (Sat and Sun)
3. Glen Waverley Daily (Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat and Sun)
4. Alamein Daily (Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat and Sun)
So you can see that on the Glen Waverley and Alamein temp. timetables sat and
sun is on them and there is a separate timetable for Belgrave/Lilydale
> > What I'd also like to know is why all the changes to the loop service in
> > the first place? If they are only running the temporary timetable because
> > of platform reconstruction at F/S & Federation Square works, why can't the
> > loop service run as normal (or with relatively minor alterations)? After
> > all, the track works performed at Flinders St several months ago was
> > supposedly to allow trains from any line to be switched to any platform,
> > so it shouldn't be a switching problem.
>
> Sorry, can't help you here, but I suspect platform availability and
> safeworking are part of this. The temporary timetable actually make
> majority of the Burnley Group trains to run through to Northern Group
> and vice versa - another word, "through running"!!
During the morning peek Belgrave/Lilydale trains use the Caulfield up lines to
FS (which are not use by trains from Caulfield because they use the loop) and
Belgrave/Lilydale down trains use the Burnley loop as Caulfield trains use the
down lines from FS. The opposite in the afternoon. If you left the loop going
the same direction then you would have all Caulfield trains and
Belgrave/Lilydale trains using the same tracks going the same way and there
would be too much congestion.
> I.C.
Chris Gordon
cmgord@ecr.mu.oz.au
http://www.ecr.mu.oz.au/~cmgord/trains/works.html