Re: Latest news on Speedrail

["Dave Proctor" <daproc@spambait.ozemail.com.au>]

"Tezza" <tezza2000@dingoblue.net.au> wrote in message
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> "Dave Proctor"
> > "Tezza"
> > > > > > > "Dave Proctor"
> > >
> > > > > > And also happens to be a point that most travellers to the
airport
> > pass through.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would definately dispute that most airline users go to the
airport
> > via Central.
> > > >
> > > > They go past it - Kings Cross backpackers use a bus which goes past
it,
>
> [sarcasm alert]
> > > I've often seen thousands of them a day going to the airport to get a
> > plane to Melbourne.
> [sarcasm generator off]
>
> > > And they all catch buses which go past Central, hence Central is a
common
> > starting point.
>
> See above.

<redhead>
Please explain
</redhead>

> > > > cabs from CBD hotels go past Central,
> > >
> > > if the hotel happens to be north of Central,
> >
> > Vast majority are, since the vast majority of the CBD is north of
Central.
>
> You're lucky I'm lazy.

How so? The vast majority of corporate hotels are in the CBD and 95% of the
CBD is north of Central.

> > > > north shore don't any more,
> > >
> > > Isn't that where most execs live?
> >
> > Not where they work.
>
> But if they're going to Melbourne for a meeting, surely they'd go in the
morning from home? I'm sure everyone complains about the
> airline peaks, all the planes going together in the morning at the same
time. But one told you he doesn't.

That is only for those who have early morning meetings. I had stacks of
corporates travelling around lunchtime, or in the evening (to spend the
night so as not to have to get up at 0300 to get the first flight) - they
all spent the first part of the day in the office. Other travel agents with
corporate clients will tell you the same thing.

> > > > now that the Eastern Distributor is open, but since most corporate
travellers stay
> >>> in CBD hotels
> > >
> > > Gee, I thought most of them would stay at home.
> >
> > Hmmm, let's see, they go to Sydney for a meeting, they fly back to
Melbourne
> > to sleep in their own bed, then fly back up the next morning.
Interesting
> > concept.
>
> As most of them would live in Sydney, I don't know who's beds they'd be
sleeping in in Melbourne. Not lost are you?

Most of them live in Sydney? WHat prompts you to make this assumption? Since
Melbourne has the head offices of more Australian companies than Sydney
does, it would stand to reason that more executives would live in Melbounre
(I know, "live" and "Melbourne" in the same sentence is a bit unsettling,
but try to cope) and they have to make trips to Sydney on occasions.

> > > > > They must run hundreds of these busses each day then?
> > > >
> > > > Every 10 minutes during the day.
> > >
> > > Full? Of people going to the airport? To get a plane to Melbourne?
You've
> > surveyed them?
> >
> > You are being deliberately obtuse here Tezza - this is the Tezza we all
came
> > to know and love during the waterfront dispute, steadfastly refusing to
see
> > the point and deliberately being obstructionist.
>
> I'm destroying your generalizations and completely wrong statements and
assumptions. I'm showing how utterly ridiculous they are.

You are doing nothing of the sort. I am applying the same methodolgy and
practices that have been successfully proven overseas to Australia. You are
doing nothing more than sidetracking and deliberately being obstructionist.

> Ans sticking to the point.

Rubbish.

> > > > > > What a lot of rot. Most people do go through Central,
> > > > >
> > > > > Rubbish.
> > > >
> > > > They do - see above. Not necessarily Central Rail, but Eddy
> > Ave/Elizabeth St/George St at Central.
> > >
> > > Rubbish - see above.
> >
> > I have experience in this matter, you do not.
>
> I've been on a train, I've been on a plane, I've been to the airport, I've
been to Central, I know people who do the same. What
> you're saying is crap.

I have booked people, and arranged their travel from when they leave home
until they get to the other end. That involves travel from home to the
airport. I think I have more experience than you do. I have also had to give
advice to non-clients as to the best way to get to the airport, and the best
connections from other parts of Sydney. I know what I am talking about here,
both with regard to the tourist trade and the corporate market.

I wish Tony Bailey would wade in here. I believe that he would back me up,
and that two corporate teavel consultants (one current, one former) would be
able to provide their real life experiences over the observations of a train
driver.

Dave