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Re: Travel patterns (was Re: New form of rail transportation)
Thsi is misleading.
When people take on a new job their choice of place to live is influenced by
the availability of public and private transport routes to their job.
Promoting a radial network has the following effects.
1. People are less likely to go for jobs in areas that they do not have good
transport options to eg across town.
2. People are more likely to moved to suburbs that have good transport
options in terms of getting them to their work.
The effect is that transport journeys become centred on the radial networks.
The population is servicing the rail network not the other way around. Cross
town rail links provide more options for people to get to their job. One of
the reasons I chose to live in Boronia is because I have a rail link with my
work in Box Hill. Had there been a direct rail link to Mill Park I would
have considered this suburb also.
cheers Peter
Anthony Morton <amorton@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au> wrote in message
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> Vaughan Williams <ender2000@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> >How about a nuclear powered monorail while you're at it. Do you know how
> >many people travel from Nunawading to Cranbourne?
>
> I just checked the latest census. 45 people out of a total workforce of
> 42,449 in Blackburn, Nunawading and Mitcham work in Cranbourne. That's
> around 0.1 per cent. By comparison 6,996 people work in the Melbourne
CBD.
>
> Here's some more numbers culled verbatim from the census journey-to-work
> figures, which are relevant to the question of how much long-distance
> circumferential travel there is in the eastern suburbs compared with local
> and radial travel.
>
> From Box Hill
> Total workforce 20,453
> To Oakleigh 479 2.3%
> To Springvale 166 0.8%
> To Dandenong 157 0.8%
> To Frankston 15 0.1%
> To City of Melb 4,023 19.7%
> To Box Hill 3,498 17.1%
> To adjoining suburbs 3,094 15.1%
>
> From Nunawading West (Blackburn)
> Total workforce 21,368
> To Oakleigh 611 2.9%
> To Springvale 235 1.1%
> To Dandenong 229 1.1%
> To Frankston 44 0.2%
> To City of Melb 3,668 17.2%
> To Nunawading West 3,219 15.1%
> To adjoining suburbs 4,734 22.2%
>
> From Nunawading East (Mitcham)
> Total workforce 21,081
> To Oakleigh 507 2.4%
> To Springvale 283 1.3%
> To Dandenong 290 1.4%
> To Frankston 41 0.2%
> To City of Melb 3,328 15.8%
> To Nunawading East 3,242 15.4%
> To adjoining suburbs 4,794 22.7%
>
> From Ringwood
> Total workforce 18,884
> To Oakleigh 275 1.5%
> To Springvale 192 1.0%
> To Dandenong 200 1.1%
> To Frankston 23 0.1%
> To City of Melb 2,545 13.5%
> To Ringwood 3,934 20.8%
> To adjoining suburbs 3,446 18.2%
>
> From Knox North (Wantirna, Bayswater, Boronia, Ferntree Gully)
> Total workforce 49,809
> To Springvale 947 1.9%
> To Dandenong 1,260 2.5%
> To Frankston 169 0.3%
> To City of Melb 4,830 9.7%
> To Knox North 14,017 28.1%
> To adjoining suburbs 9,368 18.8%
>
> From Oakleigh
> Total workforce 16,263
> To Box Hill 198 1.2%
> To Nunawading West 111 0.7%
> To Nunawading East 72 0.4%
> To Ringwood 44 0.3%
> To City of Melb 2,322 14.3%
> To Oakleigh 3,364 20.7%
> To adjoining suburbs 3,945 24.3%
>
> From Springvale
> Total workforce 27,760
> To Box Hill 206 0.7%
> To Nunawading West 135 0.5%
> To Nunawading East 123 0.4%
> To Ringwood 61 0.2%
> To Knox North 336 1.2%
> To City of Melb 2,122 7.6%
> To Springvale 5,429 19.6%
> To adjoining suburbs 11,478 41.3%
>
> From Dandenong
> Total workforce 21,324
> To Box Hill 128 0.6%
> To Nunawading West 136 0.6%
> To Nunawading East 112 0.5%
> To Ringwood 72 0.3%
> To Knox North 365 1.7%
> To City of Melb 1,538 7.2%
> To Dandenong 5,318 24.9%
> To adjoining suburbs 3,766 17.7%
>
> From Frankston
> Total workforce 31,016
> To Box Hill 93 0.3%
> To Nunawading West 83 0.3%
> To Nunawading East 65 0.2%
> To Ringwood 50 0.2%
> To Waverley West 584 1.9%
> To Waverley East 160 0.5%
> To Knox North 176 0.6%
> To Knox South 205 0.7%
> To City of Melb 2,279 7.3%
> To Frankston 10,356 33.4%
> To adjoining suburbs 2,254 7.3%
>
> In all cases travel in the local area, to adjoining suburbs, and to the
> central city together accounts for around half of all travel.
Long-distance
> travel in the Springvale Rd / Stud Rd corridor accounts for at most 5% of
> all travel. Indeed it appears that most of the admittedly heavy traffic
in
> this corridor is generated by shorter-distance trips, or by east-west
trips
> that go north-south for a short distance.
>
> The balance of trips (the 40% or so not accounted for in these tables) are
> made up mostly of trips along the radial rail corridors, such as Ringwood
to
> Box Hill, Dandenong to Oakleigh or Frankston to Cheltenham. There are
also
> a number of trips involving short cross-suburban sections in the inner
suburbs
> (such as Oakleigh to Hawthorn), many of which are catered for by the tram
> network. Finally there are a very small number of dispersed trips to far-
> flung destinations which account for an even smaller percentage than the
> long-distance north-south trips.
>
> It is upon evidence like this that public transport activists like myself
> emphasise the need for a transport system based on high-capacity radial
rail
> links, supported by high-standard local and cross-suburban bus networks.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony M.
>
> Public Transport Users Association http://www.vicnet.net.au/~ptua/
>