Re: Train Numbering in NSW

["Rod Young" <freight_man@hotmail.com>]

In Victoria all trains must be fitted with a train to base radio system,
this radio is usually fixed, but porta packs have been developed for
infrequent visitors.
the train number is inserted into the Radio system, and used whilst the
train is in Victoria.
All trains therefore operate under the Victorian Numbering System. Foreign
crews can and usually refer to their trains, in ROA numbers, but we know
them only as their Victorian Numbers. This system is also used by Adelaide
Control. who use the Victorian Radio System, at the moment.

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David & Julie Donald <dsjmd@hermes.net.au> wrote in message
3955999E.C70CC243@hermes.net.au">news:3955999E.C70CC243@hermes.net.au...
> A recent report would indicate that ATN is going to use the ROA train
numbering
> system for their wheat haulage traffic in NSW; the reference was to a
train with
> a number of xJWx e.g. 3JSW3), which would seem to suggest a train from
Junee to
> Port Kembla/Inner Harbour.  This decision by ATN would seem to be in
contrast to
> the situation with Freight Australia who have been using the traditional
NSW
> numeric numbering system, yet fits in with NRC who have been using the ROA
> numbering system for their internal NSW traffic.
> The question must be asked as to who makes decisions on such matters, or
do the
> operators either have a choice or put forward their preferred options.  I
would
> also ask whether this is the first official use of "J" (for "Junee") in
the
> system.
>
> The decision/attitude by Freight Australia would seem to fall in line with
their
> attitude in Victoria, and the attitude previously held by V/Line Freight,
> whereby all interstate trains (either Albury - Melbourne or Melbourne -
> Wolseley) literally had two numbers, being their ROA number (primarily
used for
> the non-Victorian component of the journey) and then their internal
Victorian
> number which was used when the train was operating within Victoria.  It
would
> seem that, with ARTC now providing Train Control on the interstate routes,
this
> duplicity of numbering has disappeared for NRC-hauled services, but
remains for
> those interstate trains that are operated by Freight Australia or other
> operators.
>
> It is perhaps worth noting that both Austrac and LVRF are using the
standard NSW
> numeric numbering system for their internal NSW traffic (leaving aside the
> Metropolitan trip services, and that would seem to be another story
completely),
> whilst Silverton is adopting the ROA system for the Eleura ore traffic -
this
> latter situation is perhaps quite understandable given that Silverton is
> operating this traffic either in conjunction with, or under contract to,
NRC.
>
> Does anyone know what numbering system NRC is using on their Hunter Valley
coal
> traffic ??
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> David Donald
> Springwood, NSW
>
> dsjmd@hermes.net.au
>
>