Re: [Melb] Security guards on trains after 9pm / more staff on trains

[Vaughan Williams <ender2000@my-deja.com>]

And he's quite right. I'm quoted saying similar things in the age.

Basically security guards or cops on hide and seek patrols will only
catch very stupid vandals who decide to do it in front of them. This
means there needs to be a conductor on every train and staff at every
station. (Except some with low patronage and no security problems, like
perhaps Wattle Glen)

Vaughan

In article <396ac0ba$0$11190$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au>,
  "James C" <noemail@emailsux.com> wrote:
> Herald Sun also have something similar....
>
> But Mr. Paul Mees the president of Public transport assocoation
disagree
> somehow as he reckons conductors and station staffs are the solution
as
> security guards aren't there all the time, whereas station staffs and
> conductors will be there from the 1st train till the last train.
>
> Cheers
> James
>
> Daniel Bowen <dbowen@custard.REMOVE.net.au> wrote in message
> qBwa5.13313$Tb7.89475@news-server.bigpond.net.au">news:qBwa5.13313$Tb7.89475@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > http://www.theage.com.au/breaking/0007/11/A65399-2000Jul11.shtml
> >
> > Security guards for late-night trains
> >
> > Source: AAP|Published: Tuesday July 11, 8:36 AM
> >
> > Security guards will patrol late-night trains in Melbourne in a bid
to
> > ensure passenger safety.
> > Bayside Trains communications manager Dean Souter said the company
had
> > launched a trial with security staff from Chubb Security to patrol
all
> nine
> > of their lines from 9pm until the last train each evening.
> > "They are not armed and they are instructed to deter, certainly
their role
> > is not combative," he told Melbourne Radio 3AW.
> > "Increasingly our customers are perceiving that it is unsafe on our
trains
> > and that is because they're faced with more and more slashed seats
and
> > graffiti on the walls of the trains.
> > "We're providing security staff as an effective deterrent to these
> would-be
> > vandals," Mr Souter said.
> > Mr Souter said the higher security would not lead to an increase in
fares.
> > The first squad of eight guards began patrolling train lines in the
> western
> > and south-eastern suburbs last night.
> > Bayside operates Melbourne's Werribee, Williamstown, St Albans,
Pakenham,
> > Cranbourne, Frankston, Sandringham, Broadmeadows and Upfield lines.
> > ---------------
> > http://www.theage.com.au/breaking/0007/11/A65535-2000Jul11.shtml
> > Vic Govt to put 100 extra staff on trains
> >
> > Source: AAP|Published: Tuesday July 11, 11:29 AM
> >
> >
> > MELBOURNE: The Victorian Government had allocated $20 million to
put 100
> > more staff on Melbourne trains in a bid to help passengers feel
safer,
> > acting premier John Thwaites said today.
> > 'We committed that in the (May) budget and we're now negotiating
with the
> > private operators of the trains so we can have those staff in place
later
> > this year,' Mr Thwaites told radio 3AW.
> > The extra staff would patrol trains and stations.
> > 'There's no doubt that people need to feel secure if they're going
to
> travel
> > on public transport, and we want to promote public transport,' Mr
Thwaites
> > said.
> > Mr Thwaites said restoring guards to trains would be unlikely to
alleviate
> > passenger safety concerns if guards were merely placed at the back
of the
> > train.
> > Having security buttons for passengers was not a solution either
because
> by
> > the time passengers used them they were probably already being
threatened.
> > 'The key is to have (security) people moving around,' Mr Thwaites
said.
> > A private train operator has already introduced security guards to
patrol
> > late-night trains in Melbourne in a bid to ensure passenger safety.
> > Bayside Trains' communications manager Dean Souter said the company
had
> > launched a trial with security staff from Chubb Security to patrol
all
> nine
> > of their lines from 9pm until the last train each evening.
> > 'They are not armed and they are instructed to deter, certainly
their role
> > is not combative,' Mr Souter told radio 3AW.
> > 'Increasingly our customers are perceiving that it is unsafe on our
trains
> > and that is because they're faced with more and more slashed seats
and
> > graffiti on the walls of the trains.
> > 'We're providing security staff as an effective deterrent to these
> would-be
> > vandals.'
> > Mr Souter said the move would not lead to an increase in fares.
> > The first squad of eight guards began patrolling train lines in the
> western
> > and south-eastern suburbs last night.
> > Bayside operates Melbourne's Werribee, Williamstown, St Albans,
Pakenham,
> > Cranbourne, Frankston, Sandringham, Broadmeadows and Upfield lines.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia
> > dbowen@custard.REMOVE.net.au
> > http://www.custard.net.au/bowen/daniel/
> >
> >
>
>


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