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Re: Goodbye Overland
- Subject: Re: Goodbye Overland
- From: The Narc <gonoNOCRAP@bigpond.com>
- Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:55:59 +1100
- Newsgroups: aus.rail
- Organization: Future Perversions Inc.
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:14:12 GMT, mauried@commslab.gov.au (Maurie
Daly) wrote:
>In article <mauried.399.3892B07D@commslab.gov.au> mauried@commslab.gov.au (Maurie Daly) writes:
>>
>
>>Why?
>>XPT with 7 cars and two power cars is 7 HP /tonne.
>>Worst grade is Goodwood to Mt Lofty Loop,averages 1:45 with some curves
>>reaching 1:40, distance = 16 km.
>>XPT wouldnt even be in 8th notch going thru the hills as the curves are way
>>too speed limited. (7 HP/tonne up 1:45 = 76 km/h)
>>Melb XPT has on a number of occasions had to travel via Wollongong / Moss Vale
>>where the climb up the hill from Unanderra to Summit Tank (dist 20 km) is a
>>constant 1:30 with no probs.
>>There have also been Dubbo XPTs with 1 power car &
>>4 carriages (6 HP /tonne) climbing the Blue Mtns (1:30 with no problems.)
>
>>The Adelaide Hills would be a snap.
>>The problem with an XPT solution is that Countrylink would not provide it
>>unless they were paid by someone,(cant see the NSW Govt funding a rail service
>>for the residents of Vic and SA) and I cant see the Vic and SA Govts funding
>>an XPT service.
>>An XPT service however , if it could be run by anyone , would have a
>>chance,especially if it were allowed decent speeds , like 160 km/h from Ararat
>>to Tailem Bend.
>>It doesnt have to be an XPT service , just has to be fast enuf to get the
>>infrastructure utilization up a bit.,ie a return trip by the train per
>>day.
>>Even something like SG sprinters or Explorers would do,7 cars on Fridays
>>and Weekends and less during the week.
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>
>>MD
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>Slight typo above ,was reading a really old map.
>The distances are in miles not km.
>Goodwood to Mt Lofty is 16.36 miles ( 25 km ).
>Doesnt really alter anything,but better to have the right numbers
>
>MD
Sorry Maurie hate to be pedantic but XPT's only have five notches
regards
Regards Paul Johnston (MNRC)