Doug Rosser <krosser@optushome.com.au> wrote in message 5oV26.8832$KY1.23950@news1.rivrw1.nsw.optushome.com.au">news:5oV26.8832$KY1.23950@news1.rivrw1.nsw.optushome.com.au... > With or Without a tie? Either, as long as it's orange or yellow. Dave Malcolm