Re: inaugural ip locos

[Trevor Gibbs <xdford@start.com.au>]

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Hi there,

It should be fairly easy to check the direction of CL1 and hence the
Indian Pacific. If Pt Pirie platform is on the Drivers side of the
loco, then it should be East Bound, Firemans side would be West Bound.

Hope this helps


Original message from: "m,hardacre" <hardacre@acay.com.au>
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>I had a check of Bayley's book and the two photos show the 421's
coming off
>at Broken Hill and two 600's dropping on. (Remembering at this period
of
>time, the SAR operated to Pt. Pirie from Broken Hill with the CR
taking over
>from there.  It was the days of operating isolation and neither
systems
>locomotives encroached on the others lines - except, of course, at
the
>hand-over points or when locos were being delivered).
>
>Bayley does have a photo of CL1 hauling the 'inaugural' IP sitting in
Pt.
>Pirie platform with the caption stating that it had just arrived from
Port
>Augusta.  He also has a photo on the front cover, again stating that
it is
>eastbound.  The headboard it carries, however, states "Indian-Pacific
>Inaugural Sydney-Perth".  According to the ARHS SA Divn journal "The
>Recorder", it would appear that this train is initial train to
transfer the
>IP carriages to Sydney.  If so, this train passed through Pt. Pirie
on
>Saturday 28th February 1970.
>
>Grahame Fergus posted that in the inaugural westbound IP ex Pt.
Pirie, GM 47
>would have to be the middle unit.  I intend to agree as it stands to
reason
>that GM25 (without it's MU connections on the No.1 end) would have
real
>difficulty being the middle unit.  "The Recorder", however, states
that the
>train departed Pt. Pirie as CL1+GM25+GM47.  I would suspect that it
may be a
>case of incorrect reporting over 30 years ago.
>
>Regards,
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stratton, Chris CP <Stratton.Chris.CP@bhp.com.au>
>To: 'Aus loco discussion mailing list' <Ausloco@listbot.com>
>Date: Friday, March 17, 2000 7:30
>Subject: RE: Inaugural IP locos
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>>Two photos in William A Bayley's book "Standard Gauge Triumph across
>Australia" (or something like that) show 42106+421 coming off the
train and
>CL1 going on to the train. The captions say it is the inaugural IP so
it is
>probably the real IP, not the press train.
>>Regards,
>>Chris.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Scott Martin [mailto:semartin@idx.com.au]
>>Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2000 18:38
>>To: Ausloco
>>Subject: Inaugural IP locos
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>>A big thank you to all who replied to my post on the first IP. A lot
of
>>good info was turned up, although I am still unsure as to which
locos
>>hauled the first and second divisions west of Lithgow to Broken
Hill.
>>Thanks again
>>
>>Scott
>>
>>
>>EOM
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