What started as Apex has been Pioneer for about 10 years. -- Regards Roderick Smith Rail News Victoria Editor Steven Hurst <hurste@optusnet.com.au> wrote in article <7lbu2v$9bg$1@news1.mpx.com.au>... > The dates are 5-8 and 12-15 of July, More info, go to his website, link > from mine at http://members.optusnet.com.au/~hurste/bmsl.html