Les Brown <pcc@ocean.com.au> wrote in message **SNIP** > Ben, this is the place for inbuilt biases, that's why we're here - we > all like trains. > > Other n.g.s' are for other people according to other biases. > > Les Brown I guess you're right. Mabye the problem is that Patrick Dunford has the wrong type of bias. So why isn't he posting to australia-nz.road.toss???? Ben Staples