L & D wrote: > Yeh when??? not in winter with the cold wet drafts comming through the gaps in the > windows or doors or not in Summer when some one would insist on keeping the doors > closed ! I remember seeing a red rattler arrive at Redfern in the rain, and everybody inside had their umbrellas up to keep dry. -- David Johnson CityRail Guard trainman@ozemail.com.au http://www.ozemail.com.au/~trainman/