Cheers,
Rob
Bob wrote in message <3545F9C7.81DD4443@fastlink.com.au>...
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>greg h wrote:
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>> On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:55:57 +1000, Tim Arnot
>> <timarnot@fastlink.com.au> wrote:
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>> >greg h wrote:
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>> >> On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:46:46 +1000, Bob <gioia@fastlink.com.au> wrote:
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>> >> >
>> >> >David Bennetts wrote:
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>> >> >> For those interested in British steam railways, the next episode of
>> >> >> 'Heartbeat' next Tuesday night has a storyline based around
sabotage on the
>> >> >> railway. The series is set in Yorkshire, and features the North
Yorkshire
>> >> >> Moors Railway, which is a well run preserved line.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Enjoy watching it.
>> >> >
>> >> >The above is episode 10 or series seven and is titles "Playing with
trains".
>> >> >The review says "the police investigate thefts from a fur factory and
>> >> >trespassers on a railway line". I suspect that loco 90775 a war
department
>> >> >2-10-0 will be seen as it has featured throughout series seven.
>> >> >Cheers
>> >> >Bob
>> >> >
>> >> With the tacky, tacky name of "Vera Lynn" ..... God, UK railway
>> >> preservationists are pathetic (90775 and other WD locos were primarily
>> >> goods/freight locos - only top link passenger steam locos were named,
>> >> and usually in a group based on a naming convention).
>> >
>> >Not only a sweeping statement by wrong as well. The loco named Vera Lynn
was
>> >repatriated from Greece some years ago for a preservation scheme in the
south of
>> >England (Isfield, I think) and never actually ran in UK steam service.
>> >
>> >Your comment that "UK preservationsists are pathetic" is not supported
by the
>> >actievements of the UK Preservation movement. Yoiu give no reasons for
your
>> >insulting comments, just like an opportunity for a good slag off??
>> >
>> >What about "Evening Star"? Other named locomotives include some of the
Green
>> >Arrows, Black 5's, B1's and a number of other locomotive classes not
considered
>> >top link. Lots of 4-4-0's of scottish extraction were also named.
>> >
>> >BTW, if I remember correctly, Dame Vera Lynn herself named the
locomotive, either
>> >at Isfield or the North York Moors.
>> >
>> >Ciao
>> >Tim
>> >--
>> >Timothy Arnot
>> >
>> >e-mail to timarnot@fastlink.com.au
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>> >
>> I cite the following instances
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>> - LNER 4472/BR 60103 Flying Scotsman having been through every shade
>> of green livery that is possible (let's make up our mind - which one
>> is it to be)
>> - BR engines of GWR design origin being liveried in GWR colours when
>> in actual fact they weren't built until the 1950s and never ever
>> carried GWR livery
>> - the current unimaginative trend a re-livering (is there such a
>> word?) just about every restored steam loco in BR livery, irrespective
>> of its origins
>>
>> I await the day when we see what appears to be a new Gresley A4 ....
>> only to find it's an Aveling-Porter geared industrial 0-4-0 with
>> fibreglass streamlining and plastic wheel covers to give the
>> impression of a 4-6-2!
>>
>> In reference to names, I withdraw the description "top-link" - maybe
>> that was a bit too definitive. But named locos were still primarily
>> limited to those involved with "higher-level" type passengers services
>> - even Evening Star spent it's latter days in charge of the Pines
>> Express over the (former) Somerset & Dorset.
>>
>> In respect of naming, Black 5's (7 or 8 only out of a couple of
>> hundred), some B1's (african animals, etc), some V2's (only 2 fell in
>> this category -BR 60809 The Snapper The East Yorkshire Regiment The
>> Duke of York's Own, and LNER 4471/ BR 60800 Green Arrow) were "token
>> gesture" namings but still had passenger duties as their prime
>> responsibility.
>>
>> WD 2-10-0's could hardly be classified in the same category as these
>> locos (for justification of naming purposes), and didn't carry the
>> name until after preservation.
>>
>> I meant no disrespect to the person or reason for naming this 2-10-0;
>> it just seems to me that the UK preservation movement is made up of
>> big boys playing with big train sets, sometimes with little regard to
>> historical background or reasonable authenticity.
>> Greg H
>> Sydney Australia
>> aka IRC nick steam3801
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>If only we had a quater of what they have in the UK as far as restored and
preserved
>locos. Here we are in this country struggling to keep what few engines that
are
>operable in a going condition and they just build a new A1 class pacific!
We can't
>even get the mess that remains of 3813 back into one piece and where in
this country
>can you go to on a weekend and see up to 10 engines in steam at one time?
Railway
>preservation in this counrty is still in the dark ages and never likley to
get out of
>it. Why don't we have a heritage lottery to assist preserved Railways?
Because the
>majority of Aussies don't have any interest in trains. In the UK surveys
have shown
>that up to one in five have a real interest in railways. Its no wonder that
they get
>all the money and volunteer support.
>While on the subject of "liveries" I would suggest you look at several non
authentic
>liveries in our country such as 3016 (blue) 3026 (maroon) 5917 (green) and
a brown or
>maybe maroon R class . I say the poms are world leaders in steam railway
preservation.
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>Bob
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