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>greg h wrote:
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>> On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:46:46 +1000, Bob <gioia@fastlink.com.au> wrote:
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>> >David Bennetts wrote:
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>> >> For those interested in British steam railways, the next episode of
>> >> 'Heartbeat' next Tuesday night has a storyline based around sabotage on the
>> >> railway. The series is set in Yorkshire, and features the North Yorkshire
>> >> Moors Railway, which is a well run preserved line.
>> >>
>> >> Enjoy watching it.
>> >
>> >The above is episode 10 or series seven and is titles "Playing with trains".
>> >The review says "the police investigate thefts from a fur factory and
>> >trespassers on a railway line". I suspect that loco 90775 a war department
>> >2-10-0 will be seen as it has featured throughout series seven.
>> >Cheers
>> >Bob
>> >
>> With the tacky, tacky name of "Vera Lynn" ..... God, UK railway
>> preservationists are pathetic (90775 and other WD locos were primarily
>> goods/freight locos - only top link passenger steam locos were named,
>> and usually in a group based on a naming convention).
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>Not only a sweeping statement by wrong as well. The loco named Vera Lynn was
>repatriated from Greece some years ago for a preservation scheme in the south of
>England (Isfield, I think) and never actually ran in UK steam service.
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>Your comment that "UK preservationsists are pathetic" is not supported by the
>actievements of the UK Preservation movement. Yoiu give no reasons for your
>insulting comments, just like an opportunity for a good slag off??
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>What about "Evening Star"? Other named locomotives include some of the Green
>Arrows, Black 5's, B1's and a number of other locomotive classes not considered
>top link. Lots of 4-4-0's of scottish extraction were also named.
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>BTW, if I remember correctly, Dame Vera Lynn herself named the locomotive, either
>at Isfield or the North York Moors.
>
>Ciao
>Tim
>--
>Timothy Arnot
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>e-mail to timarnot@fastlink.com.au
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I cite the following instances
- LNER 4472/BR 60103 Flying Scotsman having been through every shade
of green livery that is possible (let's make up our mind - which one
is it to be)
- BR engines of GWR design origin being liveried in GWR colours when
in actual fact they weren't built until the 1950s and never ever
carried GWR livery
- the current unimaginative trend a re-livering (is there such a
word?) just about every restored steam loco in BR livery, irrespective
of its origins
I await the day when we see what appears to be a new Gresley A4 ....
only to find it's an Aveling-Porter geared industrial 0-4-0 with
fibreglass streamlining and plastic wheel covers to give the
impression of a 4-6-2!
In reference to names, I withdraw the description "top-link" - maybe
that was a bit too definitive. But named locos were still primarily
limited to those involved with "higher-level" type passengers services
- even Evening Star spent it's latter days in charge of the Pines
Express over the (former) Somerset & Dorset.
In respect of naming, Black 5's (7 or 8 only out of a couple of
hundred), some B1's (african animals, etc), some V2's (only 2 fell in
this category -BR 60809 The Snapper The East Yorkshire Regiment The
Duke of York's Own, and LNER 4471/ BR 60800 Green Arrow) were "token
gesture" namings but still had passenger duties as their prime
responsibility.
WD 2-10-0's could hardly be classified in the same category as these
locos (for justification of naming purposes), and didn't carry the
name until after preservation.
I meant no disrespect to the person or reason for naming this 2-10-0;
it just seems to me that the UK preservation movement is made up of
big boys playing with big train sets, sometimes with little regard to
historical background or reasonable authenticity.
Greg H
Sydney Australia
aka IRC nick steam3801