Apology sought Was re: re: My trip to Adelaide

peter berrett (pberrett@tbsa.com.au)
Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:58:24 +1100

David Proctor wrote

> peter berrett wrote in message <3542CD21.4067@tbsa.com.au>...

> >> To a point. Lets say 50 people on a bus (roughly). Lets say a 20 car
> >> Overland as you suggest carries 1000 people (roughly 50 per carriage).
> Thus
> >> to run another train you would need to attract 1000 people off other
> modes.
> >> Even a seeding service with 5 cars would need to attract 250 people with
> >> more to stay viable. Hence to compare the frequencies of service, I would
> >> GUESS there would be around 20 buses a day to Adelaide

If someone cares to work their way back to the above thread you will
find that Michael Walker wrote the above paragraph.

>
> A huge error in your guess - ordinarily, Greyhound-Pioneer have two buses a
> day (one day, one overnight) McCafferty's have one bus (overnight) and
> Firefly have one service (also overnight) - total four buses a day. During
> school holiday periods, they do run extra buses, but to the same schedules
> as at the moment.
>
> >> This means that on average, there could potentially be a bus
> >> leaving almost every hour.
>
> You're kidding aren't you? Even if there were 20 buses a day, do you think
> anybody would run them hourly? It is a 10 hour bus trip, and a bus leaving
> at 5pm would arrive at 3am - very attractive arrival time - similarly, could
> you imagine any demand for buses leaving at 2am or 3am? The only possibilty
> for any route of this length is morning and evening departures.
>
> > If a train attracts 250 passengers somehow to run
> >> 1 extra train whose service frequency is now 12 hours, the buses
> frequency
> >> now goes down to 24/15 or 1 hr 20 minutes on average.
>
> I can't be bothered replying to any more of the fallacious arguments
> espoused by somebody who obviously knows NOTHING about the coach industry -
> as somebody who used to work for Deluxe, Bus Australia and Greyhound, and
> then for a travel agency with a heavy emphasis on coach travel, I do know a
> little bit about the industry - unfortunately Peter, and don't take this
> personally, you do not.

I don't and never have claimed to!

> Regards
>
> David "The Doctor" Proctor
> daproc@spamsux.bigfoot.com