Re: STNs

Bob (gioia@fastlink.com.au)
Fri, 24 Apr 1998 23:05:02 +1000

David Johnson wrote:

> Well, after a very long period, (probably over two years), someone in SRA has
> finally complained about the STN page. They didn't complain directly to me, of
> course, but to my ISP. As such, this service is now discontinued. This makes
> things a lot easier for me, as I no longer have to worry about scanning the
> darned things. :-)))
>
> >X-From_: mkains@staterail.nsw.gov.au Tue Apr 21 08:47:36 1998
> >Return-Path: <mkains@staterail.nsw.gov.au>
> >Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:20:42 -0700
> >From: "Malcom Kains" <mkains@staterail.nsw.gov.au>
> >Reply-To: mkains@staterail.nsw.gov.au
> >Organization: State Rail Authority - CityRail - 4TH Generation Train
> >To: accounts@cia.com.au
> >Subject: Breach of copyright
> >
> >On your home page under the heading of Connection Plans, you mentioned
> >that web pages in breach of copyright may be removed.
> >
> >I would like to draw your attention to a web page in your system that is
> >in breach of copyright. If you go to;
> >
> > www.cia.com.au/trainman/browser.cgi?STNs
> >
> >you will find a selection of documents that are both copyrighted and
> >restricted. If you view any one of these documents and read the very
> >first line you will find it reads;
> >
> >For the information of employees and not for publication,...
> >
> >The copyright for most if not all of these documents is owned by the
> >Rail Access Corporation of NSW and I would remind you again that it is
> >restricted information that is contained in these documents.
> >
> >As this particular web site is clearly in breach of even your own
> >conditions, I would ask that you remove it.
> >
> >Malcolm Kains
> >Chief Inspector- Operations
> >State Rail Authority of NSW
> >
> >
>
> I was talking to a friend this evening about this matter and he informed me that
> in recent times the STNs have not had the message at the top stating that the
> information was for employees only as things within the rail system had changed
> so much that many non employees were issued with STNs and indeed even private
> operators that are not conected in any way with rail access were recipients to
> STNs. Also he pointed out that in all the years he had worked for the railway he
> had never seen a copyright symbol or wording on an STN. It would seem more
> apparent now that this action may be that of an individual employee of State Rail
> (Mr Kains) and not the official view of rail access. If rail access have a
> problem then why don't they have their own web site with STNs? I feel that David
> has preformed a service at no charge for them over the last two years. It would
> be a shame to take this lying down. Why not challenge it David?

CheersBob