Re: Patricks Train

Eben Levy (ebenlevy@klever.net.au)
Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:32:18 +1000

tezza wrote:

> David Proctor wrote in message <6gmd6h$nua$1@wbn.sydnet.com>...
> >
> >tezza wrote in message <6gleno$isg$1@nswpull.telstra.net>...
> >
> >>>You really are a nut!
> >>
> >>And you're a fucking parasitic idiot!
> >
> >
> >Hey - watch the language.
>
> Hey - watch the abuse.
>
> >We have children reading this newsgroup, and
> >although they have probably seen and heard worse than this,
>
> Which makes a mockery of your statement above.
>
> >please confine your vitriol to provate email if you must use it.
>
> You abuse me in the ng, that's where I'll respond.
>
> >>You're the sort of bloke who'd scab on his mates.
>
> >No I'm not - but these bludgers aren't my mates.
>
> I bet they work harder and longer than you do. Your mate's a scab and I
> bet you'd be one too.
>
> >>Show us some proof, the media haven't been able to.
>
> >I'll check with my mate as to whether I can scan in his payslip - I
> would
> >need to edit out his personal details, but once it has been editted,
> you
> >could say that I have editted the pay details too, so I probably won't
> >bother.
>
> Perfect excuse eh? What rubbish.
>
> >>The AFULE was doing it's job - trying to protect the jobs of Workers.
> >
> >
> >It is not the job of the union to protect jobs,
>
> Oh yes it bloody well is! That's one of the reasons that unions were
> formed.

Not from what I have heard.

>
>
> >it is the job of a union to
> >protect the rights of the workers that are there.
>
> And most of them aren't doing that.

Which means the union is doing what it's intention is.

>
>
> >If there is no longer a job for an employee,
>
> because the boss wants bigger profits.

We all want bigger profits.

>
>
> > it is the job of the union to see that the employee
> >which goes gets all of the redundancy provisions to which he is
> entitled.
>
> That's a pretty pathetic description of a union.

Not from what my training has taught me.

>
>
> >>The many delays and accidents since that a manned brake-van could have
> >>avoided prove the Union was right.
> >
> >That is an issue for management, not the union to decide.
>
> Safety is a management issue? I don't think so. Left to management,
> there would be even more accidents and deaths.

Well, then, the workers should take the company to workcover and if they
don't do this, then it is the workers fault if they get hurt.

>
>
> >>The sleep study being done for the
> >>last couple of years will prove the Union right on the XPT too.
> >
> >
> >I'll concede this one to you tezza - sleep issues becomes a safety
> matter,
> >and it is only appropriate that the union involve itself here.
> >
> >>Where on earth did you get that bullshit from? The reported rates in
> >>Brisbane were 10 per hour. In Fremantle 6 in 5 hours!
> >
> >
> >Umm, Ch 10, Ch9, Ch 7, ABC, CNN, BBC World, and Sky News, not to
> mention
> >Daily Terrorgraph and Sydney Morning Herald - all stated that
> containers in
> >Brisbane were being moved faster with the trainees.
>
> I'll see if I can find the facts again.

Facts can be falsified.

--
Bye for now,
Eben.

http://www.klever.net.au/~ebenlevy/