Re: Patricks Train

Eben Levy (ebenlevy@klever.net.au)
Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:59:04 +1000

tezza wrote:

> Eben Levy wrote in message <352E53FB.6459AA19@klever.net.au>...
> >
> >
> >tezza wrote:
> >
> >> Eben Levy wrote in message <352E48BB.8AA59E96@klever.net.au>...
> >>
> >> >tezza wrote:
> >>
> >> >> David Proctor wrote in message <6gl750$s4b$1@wbn.sydnet.com>...
>
> >> >> ><HUGE SNIP OF PRO-UNION STUFF>
>
> >> >> >How come tezza seems to know so much about the MUA and the
> waterside
> >> >> >workers
>
> >> >> From TV, newspapers, websites and friends in the MUA. Also from
> being
> >> a PTU delegate.
>
> >> >Do you always believe what is in the media, and don't forget,
> friends
> >> will most likly state there point of view, one that will be in there
> favour.
> >> The PTU isn't the MUA.
>
> >> When you consistently get the same information from different
> sources,
> >> it tends to be more accurate - especially when the media backs up the
> >> Union side. The PTU have been having amalgamation discussions with
> the
> >> MUA.
> >
> >Still could be wrong.
>
> Odds are definately in favour of it being correct. The media *never*
> give Unions a favourable report if they can spread some bullshit
> instead.

And I have seen things with what appers to be undisputable proof, turn round
and show a different face.

>
>
> >> >> >If this was a dispute involving the PTU, I would give his
> >> >> >statements some credence, but as it doesn't, we should treat them
> as
> >> >> >opinions only, not as fact.
> >> >>
> >> >> All facts.
> >> >
> >> >Proof?
> >>
> >> What would you like proof of?
> >
> >Anything.
>
> You've stated you want proof. Now state what you want proof of. It's
> getting obvious you're only arguing for the sake of arguing.

And what's wrong with that?

>
>
> >> >> >Otherwise, I will have to express my views as a delegate
> >>> of the Finance Sector Union, and they would hold equal weight.
>
> >> >> Only if they're correct. Your's is another Union (along with the
> PTU)
> >> >> that needs a good kick in the guts from it's Members to get it to
> >> start protecting their jobs.
>
> >> >Why should his need a kick in the guts, I have never heard anything
> >> wrng with his union,
>
> >> The FSU has presided over a loss of tens of thousands of jobs as has
> the
> >> PTU.
>
> >So? I am not in either of these unions so it doesn't effect me.
>
> Then why the hell ask the question in the first place if your not
> interested in the answer - whatever it is?

Well, just because I am not in those unions doesn't mean I don't like to
know what is going on, as one day I might be in them.

>
>
> >> >the reason wht the PTU need help is cause it is full of
> >> >people who don't know what is good for them.
> >>
> >> You want to elaborate?
> >
> >You want me to say you, but I won't, cause it'll be to much fun.
>
> No, I want you to back up your claim with at least a scrap of evidence
> that you know what the hell you're talking about.

I coul;d ask the sam the of you.

--
Bye for now,
Eben.

http://www.klever.net.au/~ebenlevy/