Re: Patricks Train

tezza (tezza@atinet.com.au)
Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:26:14 +1000

Eben Levy wrote in message <352E4AEE.59A4D82B@klever.net.au>...
>
>
>tezza wrote:

>> >>A small sacrifice to pay to stop the government and big business
from
>> >>driving down Worker's pay and conditions even more than has
happened
>> for the last 10 to 15 years already.

>> >You really are a nut!

>> And you're a fucking parasitic idiot!

>Now, that was not called for, I thought it was rahter funny. You should
>learn not to use offensive language as there are minors that read this
>group.

An insult begets an insult. I didn't think it was funny. There's nothing
here they won't already know - and probably use.

>Please refrain from insulting people in this news group.

I only react, I don't instigate.

>That statement did
>not need a smily face on it either to know he was only having fun with
you
>(you know what I am talking about).

I didn't think so.

>> >I know that I am not prepared to lose pay

>> You're the sort of bloke who'd scab on his mates.
>
>Well, someone has to do the work otherwise this country would fall
down.

So you support scabs?

>> > over bludgers who were being paid over $70,000 pa on average for
less
>> than 35hours a week work.

>> Show us some proof, the media haven't been able to.

>Cause it is the media.

If the media could prove their claims they certainly would to get more
mileage out of it. It always sells more papers/gets better ratings to
attack the Unions and Workers, no matter how false the claims are.

>> >It is exactly the same situation that occurred with the
>> >removal of the second person from the XPT's and the removal of the
>> >brake-van! Efficiencies had to be made, the union screamed foul, it
>> didn't have to happen, the jobs were essential, etc. Several years of
running
>> has proven the union wrong.

>> The AFULE was doing it's job - trying to protect the jobs of Workers.
>> The many delays and accidents since that a manned brake-van could
have
>> avoided prove the Union was right. The sleep study being done for the
>> last couple of years will prove the Union right on the XPT too.

>But what about all the stuff ups caused by a guard?

Examples?

>all the shit they gave driver?

Relevance?

>Also what about the drivers been in the wrong?

If WB/non-WB was relevant then there's a possibility the guard could
have prevented it.

> EX. derailment at hard. You telling me that this wouldn't have
happened if there was a guard?

In English please.

>If the railways abolish a position, they give the workers an option to
>transfer.

There's still a loss of a position. They only positions they create are
for more non-income producing parasites in head offices.

>> >We have already seen in Brisbane that trainee wharfies are moving
>> containers at a higher rate than the bludgers who have just been
sacked.

>> Where on earth did you get that bullshit from? The reported rates in
>> Brisbane were 10 per hour. In Fremantle 6 in 5 hours!

>Well, each sector operates to a different capacity. over in frementle,
they
>might be able to handle as many containers per hour as in Brisbane. If
they
>did, the workers should be sacked for not doing an efficeiant job.

You want them to sack the filthy scabs?

>> >Patrick will win this one, and Australia will be a better place for
it.

>> I don't think they will. If they do we can all put our heads between
our
>> legs and kiss our arses goodbye and wait for the crashlanding.

>Shouldn't you be kissing your union boss' arse instead?

Why do you always resort to uncalled for insults? Fuck off!

> well, airlines survive after having suffered from crashes.

Planes crash, not airlines. I'm talking about the whole country
crashing.