Re: Patricks Train

tezza (tezza@atinet.com.au)
Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:33:58 +1000

Eben Levy wrote in message <352E53FB.6459AA19@klever.net.au>...
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>tezza wrote:
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>> Eben Levy wrote in message <352E48BB.8AA59E96@klever.net.au>...
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>> >tezza wrote:
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>> >> David Proctor wrote in message <6gl750$s4b$1@wbn.sydnet.com>...

>> >> ><HUGE SNIP OF PRO-UNION STUFF>

>> >> >How come tezza seems to know so much about the MUA and the
waterside
>> >> >workers

>> >> From TV, newspapers, websites and friends in the MUA. Also from
being
>> a PTU delegate.

>> >Do you always believe what is in the media, and don't forget,
friends
>> will most likly state there point of view, one that will be in there
favour.
>> The PTU isn't the MUA.

>> When you consistently get the same information from different
sources,
>> it tends to be more accurate - especially when the media backs up the
>> Union side. The PTU have been having amalgamation discussions with
the
>> MUA.
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>Still could be wrong.

Odds are definately in favour of it being correct. The media *never*
give Unions a favourable report if they can spread some bullshit
instead.

>> >> >If this was a dispute involving the PTU, I would give his
>> >> >statements some credence, but as it doesn't, we should treat them
as
>> >> >opinions only, not as fact.
>> >>
>> >> All facts.
>> >
>> >Proof?
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>> What would you like proof of?
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>Anything.

You've stated you want proof. Now state what you want proof of. It's
getting obvious you're only arguing for the sake of arguing.

>> >> >Otherwise, I will have to express my views as a delegate
>>> of the Finance Sector Union, and they would hold equal weight.

>> >> Only if they're correct. Your's is another Union (along with the
PTU)
>> >> that needs a good kick in the guts from it's Members to get it to
>> start protecting their jobs.

>> >Why should his need a kick in the guts, I have never heard anything
>> wrng with his union,

>> The FSU has presided over a loss of tens of thousands of jobs as has
the
>> PTU.

>So? I am not in either of these unions so it doesn't effect me.

Then why the hell ask the question in the first place if your not
interested in the answer - whatever it is?

>> >the reason wht the PTU need help is cause it is full of
>> >people who don't know what is good for them.
>>
>> You want to elaborate?
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>You want me to say you, but I won't, cause it'll be to much fun.

No, I want you to back up your claim with at least a scrap of evidence
that you know what the hell you're talking about.