Re: Industrial bans in Melbourne

gearjamr (isnospamisgood4john@longnet.com.au)
Mon, 18 Aug 1997 06:50:28 GMT

Giday Rod

I guess I should fill you in on my background a bit
I'm a truckie here in Tassy, working out of the Deloaine Rail Yard,
carting containers for the Rail. Superphosate comes in, (well it useto
until a little while ago the rail raised the cartage price above that
of the road), and Limestone out.
I'm not a train buff of anysorts, I know the difference between a
loco and a wagon and that's more or less it. I just lurk in here
sometimes as an interest as it involves my job.
anyway just a couple of thing's

"Rod Young" <berlina@bigpond.com> transmitted over the air on 16 Aug
97 15:58:26 GMT on channel aus.rail :

>Tom Jones <Tom.Jones@sawasdi.apana.org.au> wrote in article
><c4f_9708050937@sawasdi.apana.org.au>...
>> Hi "Rodney:
>>
>> In a msg of <01 Aug 97>, "Rodney T. Young" wrote to All:
>>
>> Don't you mean the least unprofitable. I don't believe the government
>railways have been profitable for some time?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> | Fidonet: Tom Jones 3:800/846.526
>> | Internet: Tom.Jones@sawasdi.apana.org.au
>Funny thing that, Tom, In Victoria I can haul 55 bogie Vehicles fully
>loaded 78 tonnes a vehicle. i.e. gross weight 4290 tonnes behind 3x G class
>Locos Driver only, 300 km from Albury to Brooklyn in 4 hours c/o up Murtoa
>and take the m/t train all the way back to albury in a 8 hour shift.THE
>VALUE OF THE loco's and the train
>would come in around $12 million[ prob too high] and the life expectancy
>would be 20 to 30 years for the Rolling stock and 10 to 20 years for the
>Locos.
>A freeway costs around 3million dollars a km to construct as against
>$100,000 a km
>for a modern fast railway line[ figures a few years old]
>A truck costs $300.000 and has a lifetime of 5 to 8 years Interstate and
>hauls a gross load of 38 tonnes, each one with its own driver. Now how many

I'm not trying to be picky or anything, I understand what your
saying, and notice you are trying to be accurate, so for interest's
sake. You did mention Interstate so this maybe approiate, semi's now
can go from a Tandem Drive with a single trailer with conventional
syspension all-round allowed 42.5 ton, to a Tri-axle drive with 4
trailers and airbag suspension and all the other tid-bits allowed up
around 140ton mark, under the National Transport Reform.

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>So if you claim that we are running at a loss....How come?

I think that is a question everyone especially here in Tassy is
asking. At the moment the rates that TASRAIL are charging are dearer
than road transport, or so I'm being told by customers that they useto
have.

>Maybe you are listening to the Oil Companies , or the truckies themselves,
>I guess
>you just forget that they are the biggest most influential lobby Groups in
>Australia.
>and of course they dont care to tell the truth, just promote their own
>lies.

I know you don't mean truckies in general, and are talking about the
heads of the multinational's.

>for a lobby group to succeed, you need corupt politicians, and thats the
>easy part,
>by their very nature thats what you get. So now you have the right people
>to cook the books.
>Marinus VanOluffson[ Sorry, mate I got it wrong again didn't I] found more
>Freight for V/Line after National Rail than any one thought possible. Only
>a shocking wheat season stopped a magnificent PROFIT turnaround.....Guess
>what he is gone now!

That is the same thing I have seen here, the WRONG people are
getting the flick.The greater part of the rail bloke are good, but
seeing as the rail here has been skinned so thin, there are still some
there that I doubt couldn't get a job anywhere else except with some
public service.

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>I know some of the jerkoffs on this newsgroup who come accross as Pro
>Railway are actually very lonely computer nerds who get their rocks off
>stiring the pot...ah well

Unfortunately we get them in all newsgroups

> Rod.

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...JOHN...
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