Re: Excess NR Locos for Sale

["f.u.i.t.b.e.t" <fuitbet@yahoo.com.au>]

Ok
Still a damn good job......Best locomotive cab enviroment....maybe the best
cab in the World(don`t get a swelled head fatboy).....probably a bit worse
off considering the continuing decay of  standard that the perway is
maintained to....4 but thats all we can say on that one...."Pumbaa"
<jcostello@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> Listen here, you're playing the daddy tonight. HAHAHAHAHA
>
> How would you now describe our/your working within NR now ?
>
> Where do you reckon we'll be in the next 12 to 24 months ?
>
> Privatisation, you fore or against ?
>
> Joe
> "f.u.i.t.b.e.t" <fuitbet@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> 3b16d609$0$25491$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au">news:3b16d609$0$25491$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au...
> > So Rod,
> > The story in NSW went something like this.....FH,NM,MM,DG and a few
others
> > came to Sydney`s hosting of the AFULE`s annual   piss up....1993 was the
> > year.....We all got this very rosy picture painted about the coming of
NR
> > especially by Frank....So the seeds were then sown to the union guys and
> > they were recruited into Frank`s web of deception...... I believe the
> > forming of the PTU was instrumental in the setting up of NR....I also
> > believe the players involved all had prior Knowledge and an agenda never
> > shown to us at the grass roots level....Myself Glenn and others joined
in
> > April 1994 and set up the rosters, crew co ordination, loco rostering
etc
> > etc....Only 12 months had  passed but things were starting to go
> > sour......Frank had well and truly jumped the fence and would do and say
> > anything to survive.....the DIC`s had served their purpose so they were
> > disposed of..... control of the rosters etc was taken far away from
us...
> > and all this.. after the Dic`s being  personally recruited by frank and
> all
> > craft members... they were now being removed by other forces at
> play....Very
> > few Dic`s remained in the management side of things only the one`s that
> > danced to the right tune...NM is one of them.....So as you can see Rod
the
> > same thing happened to all of us as has happened to you guys down there
> with
> > one difference we gave up all of our entitlements to go to NR..I for one
> > cannot wait for sale of the century....
> > P.S Do you see the moth about thses days?
> > Stephen Pracy
> > Locomotive driver
> > Sydney NR
> > "Rod [comtrain]" <freight_man@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3b14d1c6$0$25488$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au...
> > > Gidday Glenn!
> > >
> > > Its a funny thing about that question, it gets asked a lot by National
> > Rail
> > > Enginemen!
> > > This answer should more probably be sent privately, but as you asked
it
> on
> > > the group, I will answer it on the Group.
> > > It should be a comprehensive answer, because chatting over a shandy or
> two
> > > with other Enginemen who did not go to NR, I am positive it applies to
a
> > lot
> > > of Engineman, not just me.
> > > A long time before the jobs were called at NR, Melbourne, several
Union
> > > Meetings were held, dominated by Hxxx, and many of the Dynon Hard Core
> > > Unionists like Mxxxx , Dxxxxx and Lxxxxx etc etc.
> > > These people were dead against National Rail and the Union Meetings
were
> > > running on the theme that it will never happen.
> > > Being a fan of American Big Train Railroading, all I could think of,
was
> a
> > > difference a truly National Railway would make to both the Economy of
> > Rail,
> > > and my job. Maybe I could operate some long heavy trains, with modern
> > > horsepower.....etc etc. I knew that I could do it, I was not
frightened
> by
> > > training, exams or anything else!
> > > I jumped up at one Union Meeting and announced to all and sundry, that
> > > National Rail was going to be our last chance to shaft the Trucking
> Lobby,
> > > and at Rails latest share of East Coast Traffic being less than 5%, We
> > were
> > > the ones being badly shafted.. No body else in that meeting spoke for
> the
> > > Governments plan to form National Rail. Privately many said they
agreed,
> I
> > > remember saying after the meeting, that regardless of what you do
Fxxxx,
> I
> > > will be signing up, first chance I get.
> > > The next several years, the Union down here was dead against National
> > Rail.
> > > I was transferring around the place getting as much big train
experience
> > as
> > > I could get. I never got into trouble, in fact I was pretty pleased
with
> > > myself, and could not wait for National Rail.
> > > Well the application forms arrived in the mail. Pretty simple stuff
> number
> > > from 1 to 5 your competency with each question asked. 1 being
absolutely
> > > competent, 5 being completely ignorant.
> > > Can't remember the Questions, you know them, others might not
> > > as an example
> > > Can you competently drive a train?..
> > > .easy       answer   1
> > > Can you operate a computer?    did not own one never used one ...easy
> > > answer  5
> > > Can you operate a signal box?    never trained as a signalman but I
can
> > read
> > > a diagram  good answer would be 4
> > > etc etc
> > > 20 % of the questions were not directly concerned with Driving a
Train,
> > and
> > > I answered all questions as honestly as I could, but obviously still
> erred
> > > to my advantage.
> > > Later on after all the Drivers had been selected, and I had not got an
> > > interview, it was easy to blame the Union Executive who had all jumped
> > ship
> > > applied and got jobs with NR, despite their continuing opposition to
the
> > > formation of National Rail. XXXXXXX even took his Fireman along, who
was
> > not
> > > even qualified as an Driver!
> > > Those of us who had missed out, all reacted in different ways. I admit
> my
> > > anger was intense, I was really pissed. Some went crying to National
> Rail,
> > > and amazingly got jobs, the rest of us continued on as we could and
made
> > the
> > > best of it. We continued to drive Interstate trains for a year or so,
> till
> > > NR got their crews all on line. I transferred around the State and ran
> as
> > > many trains as I could till the inevitable chop came, as V/Lines work
> > dried
> > > up. Fortunately the New Union Management cooperated with V/Line and
> > Victoria
> > > came out of it pretty well. No one was pushed, Some took packages, the
> > rest
> > > of us worked plenty of O/T and our pay packages, thanks to Aggregate
> > Wages,
> > > climbed within a few thousand of NR's . When NR lost part of their
> > payments
> > > a couple of years ago, we  were receiving pretty much the same as
them,
> > with
> > > a hell of a lot less stress. I began to be very happy with my job, and
> > > thanked my lucky stars when I finally, after 20 years got my job back
at
> > > Wodonga. So I am very glad I never got that job with NR in Melbourne.
> > > Why did I not get the job in Melbourne? The consultants in Adelaide
made
> > the
> > > recommendations to NR on the basis of the
> > > score received on the Application. In Melbourne, to get a
recommendation
> > for
> > > Interview, you needed to score no more than 5 beyond  the total of the
> > > Questions, so they told me. This would mean if their were 50
questions,
> > any
> > > one who scored higher than 55, was not invited for interview. These
> > figures
> > > are not all together accurate, I am only illustrating the selection
> > process.
> > > It was very obvious to those of us at the Dynon Union meeting, that
> first
> > of
> > > all You had to tell lies to get an interview. Nobody could have known
> > every
> > > job that was listed on the application form!
> > > and secondly you had to be liked by the 4 ex union bosses who made the
> > > Interview selection process at Melbourne.
> > > I was told (privately) that my old foes Dxxxx and Mxxx had voted me
out
> of
> > > an Interview, as Adelaide had highly recommended my application. Thank
> God
> > > they did.
> > > A lot of those John West rejected, were in the long run pleased. Our
> Union
> > > Meetings were much more democratic, we got rid of a lot of shit, and
> lost
> > a
> > > lot of good mates [they were much too busy in those days to have time
> for
> > a
> > > beer ]
> > > So say what you may, but with pricks like Dxxx and Mxxxx, and Union
> Bosses
> > > like Dave Gunn and Bob Lawrence and Frank Hussey, who threw the AFULE
to
> > the
> > > dogs to control and in my opinion drag NR back from its full
potential,
> > > people like me never had a chance, and although I learned to be very
> happy
> > > about it, I will never forgive those who stuffed up Australia's best
> > chance
> > > of making Railways a force to be reckoned with in this Country.
> > > I guess I don't want Legal Litigation to upset my perfectly incredible
> > > retirement ;o)) the x'd names I send to you separately for your eyes
> only,
> > > and only because you seemed to want to know what was in my head. Hope
> this
> > > gives you a little insight about one "chinook"
> > > Rod [comtrain]
> > > ps I no longer work for Freight Australia because I suffer PTSD, which
> > > coupled with age and the stress induced by our New American masters,
an
> > > accident or two, my wife becoming ill with Cancer, caused a situation
to
> > > develop where I could no longer trust myself to react in a Safe and
> proper
> > > manner. As Safety of the Public is of prime importance to this Driver,
> and
> > > as my Vietnam Experiences were found to contribute much of my anger
and
> > > stress I decided to accept my Doctors advice and retire early. I am
> happy
> > to
> > > say my wife is recovered, my stress levels are way down. I have a
> fistful
> > of
> > > Dollars and can happily survive beyond Railways...amazingly enough!
> > > Got time to booze with my mates, and can hop on the footplate any time
> it
> > > suits me, although I have rarely done this.
> > > Wave to me around Wodonga, if you see a baulding fully bearded
cameraman
> > > taking your picture. I dusted off the old Pentax, I think it works
after
> > all
> > > these years.
> > > Proud to be an ex.Driver/Gunzel
> > >
> > > "fatboy" <fatboy64@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:s9OQ6.26750$BU4.45097@news1.blktn1.nsw.optushome.com.au...
> > > > Rod,
> > > > You  seem to direct a lot of resentment towards  your fellow ex
> > workmates
> > > > ( be it Ex Vic Rail or State Rail),  and  maybe that's why you no
> longer
> > > > work on the footplate.
> > > >
> > > > Did you actually apply for a job with National Rail and miss out I
> > wonder.
> > > >
> > > > Happy Motoring,
> > > > Glenn Don
> > > > Loco Driver
> > > > National Rail Sydney.
> > > > "Rod [comtrain]" <freight_man@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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