Re: Red Rattlers be damned!

["Chris Downs" <cvdowns@ozemail.com.au>]

The biggest rattle on Sydney's single deck suburban cars came from those cars
that retained lift windows when the rubber window guides were
removed/vandalised/not replaced.  The windows rattled incessantly, something
that didn't occur on the cars that were fitted with Beclawat windows.

The same rattle also affected U-boat cars with lift windows similarly
maintained.  The rattle was more like an explosion when another train
passed/was passed at speed.

Chris

Roger Lloyd <rogerlloyd@optusnet.com.au.nospam> wrote in message
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> As an expat NSW railfan living in Victoria for the past 28 years, I object
> to the NSW press and some misguided railfans calling the old single decker
> electric cars "red rattlers". This is a term unfortunately stolen from
> Victoria where it was used (quite correctly) to describe the Tait cars on
> the Melbourne suburban system - believe me, they did rattle and shake! They
> had two sliding doors for each compartment (one each side) and loose fitting
> windows and, like the old P class Sydney trams, really required some form of
> diagonal bracing to stiffen them up. When they started to move, the
> underframe moved first and the roof followed, if you get what I mean. By
> comparison, the Sydney Leeds type cars were steel bodied and gave a firm and
> solid ride and DID NOT RATTLE!!! With their high seat backs they were more
> comfortable than Tangaras and newer stock.
> Roger Lloyd
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