Re: ARTC Communications Based Safeworking System

[mauried@tpg.com.au (Maurie Daly)]

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:38:28 +1000, "Peter Dwyer"
<peter.dwyer@qr.com.au> wrote:

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>Maurie Daly <mauried@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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>> Its phrases like this one that really are amazing.
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>>Overview: The nature of the Australian rail network is such that
>>there are economies in placing equipment on trains wherever
>>possible rather than trackside. ARTC has therefore commenced a
>>process of consultation with interstate operators to understand the
>>opportunities and constraints that may affect them.
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>> The above is code for
>> "We would much rather see most of the infrastructure needed being
>> installed in the locomotives rather than trackside.
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>> This of course means that the poor struggling rail operator has to
>> pick up a considerable part of the costs of ARTCs new scheme.
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>> We already have far more incompatible requirements now for radios /
>> VDUs etc in locomotives .
>> The last thing rail operators now need is yet another unique loco
>> based safeworking system.
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>I hate to break this to you. The considered future of ALL railway signalling
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>considered to be in-cab signalling.


Err,precisily where did I ,or indeed did ARTC in their specification
,use the term "in cab signalling."??



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>Transmission based signalling systems will, in the far flung future,
>transmit
>the permissable line speed to the driver, and the only thing left trackside
>will be points machines.
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Yes in the very far flung distant future .
Give me a single example of where in cab signaling is being used 
in  a horizontally integrated railway with no track circuiting.



>What the ARTC are trying to do has already been done, for the application
>they
>want.
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>Seeya!
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By who ????
What other operators have lines with the characteristics and train
densities of the TAR or the CAR.
Examples please!!!!

MD

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