"Andrew Tailby" <atailby@mpx.com.au> wrote in message 39bf3c0a$0$26526$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au">news:39bf3c0a$0$26526$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au... > well all v sets on the coast are 8 cars as i got caught out last night when > i had to jump down to get of the train That will teach you to ride in the front car when travelling to Wondabyne. :-) Dave