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Re: Bus Privatization



In article <s_lS5.15171$tU2.128442@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
  "Daniel Bowen" <dbowen@custard.REMOVE.net.au> wrote:
>
> "C. P. Zilliacus" <patrick.zilliacus@mix.cpcug.org> wrote in message
> 8vc5ic$232$1@nnrp1.deja.com">news:8vc5ic$232$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > In article <3a1a2469@news.alphalink.com.au>,
> >   "Peter Parker" <parkerp@alphalink.com.au> wrote:
> > > Let's eliminate the duplication but leave the route kilomeres
> > > constant (ie reduce route to 15km, serving only those areas
> > > away from the rail station).
> > > What do we get?  A bus every 10 minutes.  The gain may even
> > > be greater than this as the bus is not held up in congested
> > > inner-city streets, and providing more kilometres of
> > > service to outer suburbs, where it's needed.
> >
> > Perhaps.  But when the bus is running on transit/car-pool lanes
> > (such as the I-395/I-95 (Shirley Highway) HOV roadway) at 100 or
> > 110  k/h (with schedules adhered to), and the rail is about half
> > that speed, do you think patrons will WANT to switch from bus to
> > rail?   Even worse, many of the buses used to take patrons in to
> > downtown Washington, but when the Metro opened, the bus riders got
> > dumped out  at the edge of "downtown" at the Pentagon, and were
> > forced to endure a long walk, and a wait for (an already crowded)
> > train to get to their ultimate destination.  This forced transfer
> > added time and expense to  the trip, and many former bus riders
> > found other ways to get to work, > > including the so-called "slug"
> > queues ("informal" car-pools).
>
> Good point. I think the point Peter was making was that less
> efficient methods of transit should not be directly competing
> against less efficient methods of transit.
>
> The situation in Melbourne is that the highly efficient, frequent,
> fast (at least in peak hour, express trains every 4 minutes) and
> well-patronised Ringwood railline is seeing competition introduced
> from one of the bus companies, which sends its vehicles from the
> same suburbs into the CBD, by a longer route, serving less
> intermediate destinations such as Box Hill district centre and
> Swinburne university. They seem to be trying to win  market share
> from the railway, when they could be trying to win market share
> from those who currently drive. Then the overall public transport
> share would be larger.
>
> Your description of DC may very well be the reverse - if the bus
> system was running efficiently for certain trips, why was the rail
> system, which could not serve the same customers as well, brought
> in to figuratively steamroller over the buses?

In my opinion, because the transit authority considers itself to
be in the _rail_ transit business (as opposed to the transit
business), and only grudgingly runs buses.  Whenever bus and rail
serves the same market, WMATA instinctively gets rid of the bus
service.


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