Oops the year was actually 1992 for high school but I learnt things at TAFE in 1993. To answer your question James, I've been supporting several homeless people for several years. -- Eric http://www.erk.au.com/erktrans/ (new direct URL for my Transport site) All cows on or near the running line need to to have a Track Safety Awareness Certificate and an approved safety vest when on or near the line.