Re: S trucks? How old r they? WAS: Re: what is in the 's' truck at 3801 ltd?

["Chris" <chris@enet21.com.au>]

I assume most of  the "preserved" S trucks sitting and rusting with the
various rail museum groups are of the latter batch, does any group have
earlier S trucks and 19 century freight stock in their collections. 1855 era
passenger stock exists, but does any freight stock exist?

Chris


"Craig Warton" <craigw@wolf.net.au> wrote in message
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>
>
> Barry Campbell wrote:
>
> > S truck date back, in their final form, to at least the 1930s. ISTR
there
> > may have been timber frame versions that went back to the 19th century.
The
> > batch that were finally scrapped in the 1980s dated from a large order
of
> > 10,000 dating from the immediate post war period. Bear in mind that the
> > NSWGR were also ordering things like G wagons which were what the Yanks
> > would call gondolas and stacks of bogie louvre vans, hoppers and stock
> > waggons makes you wonder why they bothered to waste the money on the S
truck
> > fleet. The answer to this will tell you why the railways are in the
state
> > they are today.
> >
> > Barry Campbell
>
> Barry,
>
> The "S" wagon was introduced in 1907. There were two variants, a square
corner
> version built until 1910 (approx 2500 in service) and a round corner
version
> (with I beam underframe) built 1910 - 1918 (or there abouts) approx 7500
of
> these were built Most were delivered with turton buffers and 3 link
couplings, a
> program to increase the amount of auto fitted stock was started in the mid
> 1930's and a lot of the S wagons were modified with autos from this point
on.
> The post war S wagon was first deveoped in 1943, when two types of wooden
bodied
> wagons entered service - they were built from 1943 - 1945. The composite
bodied
> wagons started to appear in early 1946, and used some parts that were
salvaged
> from the original steel body wagons. They were a replacement for the
earlier
> wagons and kept the number of the wagon they replaced (although they were
not
> actually accounting replacements, being considered as rebuilds) Thus,
there are
> no dates into service for them post war. A small number of SS wagons were
> rebuilt as S wagons in the late 40's and early 50's and several hundred S
wagons
> were delivered as new wagons in 1957 - 58 and were (i think) the final S
wagons
> to enter service.
> The wagons prior to the intro of these 18' wagons were 15' long, and from
1896
> or so 16 ' long. There were no 18' wooded underframe open wagons in
traffic at
> that time (the length of the WW2 vintage B wagons escapes me at present)
>
> Hope this clears things up a little.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig Warton
>