"Tom" <gunzel3801@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:39a84398$0$27230$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au... > And SPAD would stand for what? Signal Passed At Danger (red light runner, in other words). -- Dave Studies have shown that if your parents did not have any children, you probably won't either.