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October sightings: Manor loop and Dynon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Donaghy
> Sent: Sunday, 7 November 1999 11:42 AM
> To: 'Rod Smith'; 'Derek Rogers'; Stephen Donaghy (E-mail)
> Subject: October sightings
>
> Here are a few sightings from my recent trip to Melbourne; I won't
> even try to guess the train numbers. A number of DLs (38, 40 and 43?)
> and one BL(31) have been taken back out of storage by National Rail to
> alleviate a loco shortage. BL31 hadn't been stored long; DL43 was
> reported as running again in September.
>
> SG freights:
>
> Sun 10/10: NR93 / DL43 (back to back)/ =73 wagons, Down, Werribee,
> 1739
>
> Mon 11/10: NR87 / NR97 (both cab first)/ =57 wagons, Up, Manor,
> 0912
> CLF7 / CLF1 (back to back)/ 40 wagons, Up Patrick's,
> Werribee, 1020
> NR86 / DL47 (both cab first) / 40 steel + pipes, Down,
> 1132
> G517 / G537 / G518 / 50 wagons, Up SCT, Manor,<1455 -
> 1538 (waited, but no cross - Tottenham busy?)
>
> Tue 12/10: NR83 / NR26 (back to back) / =78 wagons, Up, Manor, 0856
> NR89 / DL45 (both cab first) / 36 wagons, Down, Manor,
> <1040 - 1052 for cross
> NR79 / 38 flats with a HUGE load of a whole 2
> containers, Up, Manor, 1050
> G531 / G520 / 49 wagons, Down Toll, Manor, 1841 - VERY
> fast
>
> Wed 13/10: NR88 / NR53 (back to back) / =73 wagons, Up, Werribee,
> 0838
> NR85 / 18 wagons, Down Steel, Manor, 1106-1145: two
> tries to dial up the point and signal control
> CLP13 ASR / CLF4 (back to back) / 40 wagons, Up
> Patrick's, Manor, 1144
> NR86 / 22 wagons, Up steel, 1752
>
> Thu 14/10: NR83 / NR26 (back to back) / = 67 wagons, Up, Manor,
> 0856
> NR89 / NR55 (both cab first) / 46 steel, Down, Manor,
> 1041-1054 (didn't enter loop until Patrick's was in)
> CLF7 / CLF1 (back to back) / 30 wagons, Up Patrick's,
> Manor, 1041-1056 - had signal problems for a few minutes
> 2x NR (back to back) / Up steel, Werribee, 1519
>
> Fri 15/10: NR7 / NR43 (back to back) / freight to Sydney,
> Tottenham, 1343
>
> Sat 16/10: G541 / G520 / Toll freight arrival, Dynon Terminal, 0933
> NR97 / NR99 / DL50 (all cab first) / =79 wagons, arrive
> Dynon ex Sydney, 0945. DL50 was arriving back from NR
> repaint (dark grey) in Sydney.
> NR84, Steel departure, 1000
> NR86 / NR26 / DL44 (only NR86 cab leading) / =69 wagons,
> arrive ex Adelaide, 1032
> NR119, NR103, C505 shunt freight yard; NR111, NR27,
> NR44, NR63 + more in provisioning centre
> CLP17 / CLF4 / Up Patrick's (extra), passing under
> Westgate Bridge, 1134
> C508 was rostered to run to Junee this afternoon (behind
> NR62?). DL44 was also to return to NSW for stone trains.
>
> Sun 17/10: NR61 / NR56 / C508 (both NRs cab first) / =67 wagons,
> arrive ex NSW, <0940 - 0948 waiting yard access
> NR89 / DL50 (both cab first) onto steel wagons, 0958
> (meant to be 0940 departure). This ran through Werribee at
> 1137. DL50 was supposed to be going to Parkeston as shunter, but was
> on the Melbourne run again on 28/10.
> NR103, NR119 and C505 were again in the yard, with NR90,
> NR79, NR8 and NR78 / NR82 in the provisioning centre.
> Y151 hauled G519 / G538 ex a (Toll?) arrival to the
> V/Line fuel point
> NR85 / NR116 (both cab leading) / =65 wagons, Down,
> Manor, 1759
> AN1 was rostered in from Adelaide about 1830 this
> evening behind NR88(?), but I never saw an Up freight despite
> several hours' wait at Manor from around 1630.
>
> Mon 18/10: CLP8 / CLP13 (both ASR, back to back) / 35 wagons, Up
> Patrick's, Manor, 0903
> NR83 / NR26 (back to back) / =71 wagons, Up, Manor, 1017
> - I was absolutely sick of the sight of this pair by this
> stage!!
> NR86 / 20 steel, Down, Manor, 1156
> The Down Patrick's freight this evening was assisted by
> two GN Ts after one CLP suffered a failed traction motor.
>
> Tue 19/10: NR93 / NR102 (back to back) / =76 wagons, Up, Manor,
> 0841
> NR89 / DL40 (both cab leading) / 46 empty flats, Up,
> Manor, <1025 - 1052
> NR83 / NR26 (AAAAGGGGHHHH!!!) / 45 steel, Down, Manor,
> 1041
>
> Wed 20/10: NR88 / NR41 (both cab first) / =66 wagons, Up, 0829
> Up Patrick's, 1053
>
> Thu 21/10: NR96 / BL31 / 47 wagons - mostly empty flats, Up, Manor,
> 1107-1145 - no cross, so maybe Tottenham congestion
> BL31's bogies have orange steps, so they're from
> an NR-painted BL, or touched up for safety. BL31 spent the
> next week beside the RTS shed at Dynon - possibly some cab mods? -
> returning west on 28/10.
> NR65, outside shed, Goninan maintainence centre,
> Spotswood, 1515
>
> Fri 22/10: NR strike
>
> Sat 23/10: NR79 / NR113 (both cab leading) / 48 wagon steel, depart
> Dynon, 1048
> NR89 / DL45 (back to back) on containers, for departure
> NR9, NR96 / NR93, NR13 / NR34 / NR103, C505, C508,
> freight yard (NR13 / NR34 dropped NR102, 1130)
> NR83, NR6 / NR72, NR1, NR??/NR27, NR30 / NR37,
> provisioning centre: 17 units all up!!!!
> There was an extra Patrick's rostered today, but failed
> dynamic brakes resulted in much braking through the Adelaide
> Hills. Accordingly, brake block damage was apparently severe, and the
> entire train spent the day being
> re-blocked at Tailem Bend, being due in Melbourne around midnight Sat.
> night. Consist from Adelaide was
> GM34 / GM44 / CLF7 / CLP8 / GM27(GN) / T373(GN) / T381(GN) - not sure
> on order of units.
> First two units were to drop off at Tailem Bend.
>
> Sun 24/10: NR7 / NR43 / NR52, NR87 / NR83 / NR84, DL47, NR65,
> NR115, provisioning centre;
> NR94 / NR41 (back to back) / steel + containers, depart,
> 0953
> C505, C508, NR102, yard
> CLF7 / CLP8, Appleton Dock
> GM27 / T373 / T381, GNR yard
>
> Mon 25/10: NR89 / NR112 (both cab leading) / = 64 wagons, Up,
> Manor, 0929
> NR96 / 14 unit Trailerail, Up, Manor, 1139 - late!
> Thanks for the photo opportunity!!
> Down sg steel, 1307
> Up sg freight, 1423
> NR93 / 22 steel, Up, 1539
>
> Tue 26/10: CLP8 / CLF7 / 30 wagons, Up Patrick's, Manor, 0917 -
> 0939: no cross
> NR94 / NR113 (both cab first) / =72 wagons, Up Toll (?),
> Manor, 1016-51
> NR96 / NR27 (both cab leading) / 49 steel, Down, 1047
>
> Wed 27/10: NR89 / NR112 (both cab leading) / =70 wagons, Up, Manor,
> 0851
> NR88 / 14 wagon Down steel, Manor, 1044-1103
> CLP12 / CLP17 / 42 wagons, Up Patrick's, Manor, 1101
> (my brother sighted NR88 / NR70 / DL38 on an up freight
> early this morning)
>
> Thu 28/10: CLP8 / CLF7 / 32 wagon Up Patrick's (last 7 flats were
> empty), Manor, 1027 - VERY FAST
> NR77 / BL31 / 32 wagons, Down steel, outside Manor,
> 1140-45
> NR94 / DL50 / NR47 (only NR94 cab leading) / =44
> mostly-empty flats, Up, Manor, 1140-49
>
> Fri 29/10: G / Y152 / X45, departing Dynon, 0650.
> NR64 (long end leading) / open wagon with wheelsets / 13
> flats with steel cradles, Up, Tottenham, 1154
> NR47 / NR39 (cab to cab), Down light (to Spotswood?),
> Middle Footscray, 1207
>
> One point I noticed on steel trains: coil containers are generally
> carried in pairs on short (40-foot) flat wagons - RKLYs and RKIYs, but
> there must be a shortage of these, as some 60 foot flats were also in
> use, with coil containers only on each end, over the bogies.
>
> The Overland:
>
> Fri 15/10: BL27 / PCO4 / JTB1 / JRB1 / RBJ2 / BJ7 / BJ5 / BG37? (GHAN)
> / BJ10 (red) / HM958 / AMPZ271, arrive Spencer St., 0808
>
> Sat 16/10: BL33
>
> Fri 22/10: NR82 / BL33 / HGM296 / JTB2 / JRB2 / RBJ1 / BJ9 / BJ6 / BJ4
> (red) / HM255 / AMRZ2590 (1 car) / AQMZ2698 (empty flat), arrive
> Spencer St., 0751. NR may have been due to National Rail strike this
> day. A van was loaded onto the flat wagon during the day for the
> west-bound train this evening.
>
> Sat 23/10: NR84 / BL27
>
> Sun 24/10: BL27 stabled in Dynon car shed on Overland consist
>
> (my brother saw Wed 27/10: NR83 / BL33)
>
> Fri 29/10: NR83 / PCO4 / JTB1 / JRB1 / RBJ2 / BJ7 / BJ5 / BJ10 (red) /
> HM958 / AMRZ241, arrive Spencer St., 0802
>
>
> Freight Victoria:
>
> X49's toilet has been fitted by extending the long hood to the
> extremity of the footplate. There is no longer access from one side
> to the other around the rear of the loco. The new end is completely
> flat, as opposed to the previous Clyde-GM angled hood ends, with the
> illuminated number panels relocated almost to the top of the end,
> rather than one-third of the way down as on other Xs. The headlights
> are also located higher, but the marker lights are just below
> mid-height as normal. There is a hinged mesh step outside the toilet
> door (driver's side) which can swing down to cover the step-well and
> allow access to the toilet - a similar concept the the NR rear
> step-wells.
>
> X51 (unmodified) was supposedly being repainted at Ballarat in Late
> October, with G529 being painted (by GNR?) at Islington. G529 was due
> back on Wed 27/10 night's Toll train ex Adelaide, with G522 to go over
> for repaint (the same night?)
>
> A T-class was retrieved from Bendigo storage in the last week of
> October to assist with Gippsland log trains: I sighted T408 running
> around North Melbourne on Fri 29/10.
>
>
> BG sightings:
>
> Mon 11/10: G525 / 21 wagons, Up - ex Mildura(?), Werribee, 0830.
> This was seen almost every day, and consists of mostly
> V/Line (louvred?) containers
>
> Tue 12/10: G513 / X40 / 20 wagons, Up, Manor, 0845
> G515 / X53 / X31, 9137 Cowangie freight, depart North
> Geelong, 1413. This train was delayed due to an ordinary ETM
> - a staff member drove to Geringhap to provide a visual confirmation
> of complete train. A further delay arose
> when Control were unable to contact the train to provide cross details
> and approve departure. North Geelong "C" box
> acted as go-between in several radio exchanges, before determining an
> incorrect train number had been entered by
> the loco crew in their equipment.
> G527 / G514 / wheat hoppers, ex Geelong grain terminal,
> North Geelong, 1417.
> G525 / 15 wagons (VPCX or VPBX, tanks, VLVX), Up,
> Werribee, 1554
> G527 / G534 (note one unit from grain above) / 43 wagons
> (VHGF, tank, louvre), 9080 Up, Werribee, 1915
>
> Wed 13/10: G516 / X41 / 30 wagons, Up, Werribee, 0833
>
> Thu 14/10: G525 / X40 / 27 wagons, Up, Werribee, 0826 - 0840
> A79 / T400 / 56 wagons (VPCX or VPBX, VHGF), Down,
> Manor, 0917
>
> Fri 15/10: ? / X47/VHGFs, VPCXs, Down, near Hoppers Crossing, 0707
> G543 / 12 green Freight Vic VHQFs / 9 red V/Line VHQFs,
> ex East, Spencer St., 0933
> G513 / X41 to Dynon depot ex Mildura freight arrival,
> 1020
> X34 / VHGFs and containers, Tottenham yard, 1325, for
> departure
>
> Sun 17/10: G515 / X54 / X53, Geelong depot to North Geelong yard,
> 1330, for freight.
>
> Mon 18/10: G523 / A85 / approx. 25 wagons, Up, Werribee,1636
>
> Tue 19/10: G525 / X41 / 22 wagons, Up, Werribee, 0822
> A79 / H5 / T400 / 18 VPCX / 32 VHGF / 3 VPCX, Down,
> Manor, 0859
>
> Wed 20/10: G523 / X40 / X49 (undecalled - ex Ballarat repaint) / 26
> wagons, Up, Werribee, 0824
> A85 / T400 / 12 VPCX / 32 VHGF / tank / louvre van,
> Down, Manor, 0912
>
> Thu 21/10: G516 / X41 / 25 wagons, Up, Manor, 0823
> N468 / N452, Down slow light engine, near Manor,
> 1140-48. N468 was on test from Newport overhaul, freshly painted.
> Problems were experienced, hence the delay and slowness. From radio
> conversations between the crew and Newport
> workshops, the cause had been identified, and was to be fixed
> immediately on return. N468 was noted at
> Spencer St on the morning of Sun 24/10, so must have been released on
> Friday 22/10.
>
> Fri 22/10: G / VHGFs, VPCXs, Down, Paisley Juction, 0727
> G526 / X40 to Dynon ex Mildura arrival, 1100
> G526 / X44 (note changed X) / 30 containers, depart
> Tottenham yard, 1353 - Ballarat or Bendigo line, not Geelong.
>
> Sun 24/10: X36 / X42 to Dynon ex freight arrival, approx. 1030
>
> Mon 25/10: G523 / X41 / 22 wagons, Up, Manor, 0822
> G514 / 19 x VHQF, Up, Manor, 0826
> EM100 track recorder, Down, Werribee, 0939
>
> Tue 26/10: G527 / X40 / 15 wagons, Up, Manor, 0821. G527 had some
> graffiti on the lower part of the no. 2 end cab, and had a
> badly flat wheel on the no. 2 end bogie: sounded like an R class
> steamer under heavy load!!
>
> Wed 27/10: G526 / a77 / 19 wagons, Up, Manor, 0830
>
> Fri 29/10: G523 / approx. 12-15 wagons, 9240 down, Werribee, 0621
> G514 / X39 / P20 / T408, North Melbourne to Dynon.
> X32, Tottenham yard, 1200
> X39 / containers, Down, Tottenham, 1206
> G523, T392, both from Geelong depot to North Geelong
> yard for freights
> X47 / G521 / 42 VHGFs, arrive North Geelong, about 1440;
> push back across Separation St, then pull back in (to grain
> loop?) at 1459.
>
> Sun 31/10: A78 / G512 / VHGFs, Tocumwal station, approx. 1015
> W (255? Rod, you mentioned a year or so back which one
> it was, but I can't find the reference) at Tocumwal heritage
> centre.
>
> Geelong depot visits:
>
> Tue 12/10: T371, Y122, North Geelong yard; Y121, T392, X51, A79,
> G525, G534, T413 / W241, W244, Y169 or 161, at 1340.
>
> Sun 17/10: G515 / X54 / X53 (to North Geelong), N451, Y122 / T371,
> Y121, G511 / G523, X31 / X51, A73, T413 / W241, W244,
> T400, Y169, at 1330. Y161 (badly faded), Geelong station yard.
>
> Fri 29/10: T392 / H4, X43, G523, G515 / G513, Y169, Y121, T413 /
> W241, W244, X49, X53, at 1430. Y161, Geelong station.
>
> A trip to Ballarat on Wed 20/10 revealed silver ex-AN car BRB166 near
> the workshops, possibly being worked on to re-enter service. A blue
> T, possibly recently acquired 385, visible inside the main workshop.
> One of the four Bs, 80, was not in the usual line - is it inside the
> workshops for removal of parts or rebuild? (since found out it is for
> the new SA "Murraylander" pass train, so probably being overhauled
> somewhere). B65 and S312 were still there, as were B64 and B75, both
> still bogie-less and on stacks of sleepers. Cars BS208, BS210, BRB89,
> ex-Bluebird BM259, a silver short ex-AN crew or power van and heaps of
> ex-Overland cars (Malkari, Nankuri, Numaldi, 2CO, and two other
> sleepers, one being JRA1, name not sighted) were visible. An old
> 16-cylinder GM motor sat under a tarp on a four-wheeled flat wagon
> beside the turntable.
>
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