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From: Don Allitt <nahgfa@zeta.org.au>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:29:13 +1100
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Evening all,Wayne, are there not two distint trains the one to Parkes and on to South Aust, and the other to Newcastle. I thought that Silverton took over the second Freightcorp run on 1/1/2000.
Don.

Coleman, Wayne wrote:

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> I have a feeling that previously it was discussed that the train was
> operated by NR and the Narromine to Cobar section is sub leased to
> Silverton. When the operations originally commenced the train was actually
> run from Parkes to Cobar with 48's all the way but this has since changed!
>
> Wayne Coleman
> Lucerne/Canola Production Agronomist
> colemanw@phibred.com <mailto:colemanw@phibred.com>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bevanwall@ozemail.com.au [mailto:bevanwall@ozemail.com.au]
> Sent: Friday, 14 January 2000 10:37
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> Subject: Re: Cobar ore train
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> >From my observation it seems that this particular ore train is a
> combined NR/Silverton operation. The train of empties from Newcastle
> (2NE1) arrived at Narromine on Monday night behind the two NRs.  From
> there the four Silverton 48s worked the train out to Cobar (going
> through Nygan around 08.00 Tuesday morning), arriving back at
> Narromine around 11.00 on Wednesday. Late Monday afternoon two of the
> Siverton 48s were shutdown in Narromine yard so the other two must
> have run out LE from Parkes early on Monday evening. The two NRs were
> left shut down in Narromine yard (where there is no fencing or
> lighting) from Monday night to Wednesday morning (a waste of expensive
> motive power?). It occurred to me at the time that if that was done in
> Sydney they would be absolutely covered in graffiti!
> I can't be sure, but I think the crews driving the NRs are Silverton
> crews or NR crews on loan to Siverton (on Tuesday evening I phoned the
> Silverton office in Parkes to discuss the videoing of Wednesday's run
> back to Newcastle and the person I spoke to was the driver of the NRs)
> - perhaps someone can explain the crewing arrangement.
> Depending on the time of day the train runs it is an extremely
> photogenic operation - the quad Silverton 48s crossing the Bogan River
> at Nygan in early morning sun (beware of the mossies - I got eaten
> alive by the biggest ones I've ever seen!) and the two NRs in
> different liveries rounding the huge curve in to Merrygoen in late
> afternoon sun are just two examples of the many photo opportunities
> available. I also recorded some great scenes of the train passing the
> recent derailment sight near Nygan - the wreckage from this is strewn
> all around the side of the line because the ground is still to boggy
> to allow recovery of the wagons and bogies.
> Bevan Wall
> ps. Derek, Ross took some excellent photos - I will post a selection
> to you next week.
>
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:14:09 +1100, you wrote:
>
> >Aus loco discussion mailing list
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> >Evening Bevan.It was my understanding that Silverton was to run all the way
> to Newcastle with 3EN2 if thats from Cobar as the NR's would not run to
> Cobar.When at Dubbo i photoed 442's and48's doing a driver learn the road
> trip to Gulgong.
> >Don.
> >
> >Bevan Wall wrote:
> >
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> >> G'day all.
> >> I'm recovering from a very hectic four day mission out to Dubbo to
> >> record material for future volumes of "Diesel Diary".
> >> Trains, locos and location(s) recorded are as follows:
> >> Sunday 9/01.
> >> 8166; 4701; Bathurst to Lyndhurst. (the first train to run on the
> >> Blayney-Cowra line since it was reopened last month)
> >> Monday 10/01.
> >> 4853 empty ore to Blayney; 8176+4894+48117; Wallerawang.
> >> WL2; NR109; Bowenfels; (blue out-of-gauge carriage attached0
> >> 1XS2; NR?; Wallerawang.
> >> 8162 containers from Blayney; 8113; Locksley.
> >> 9872 flour to Manildra; 8170+8173; Locksley to Tumulla.
> >> 2GS2; NR58+NR16; Murrobo.
> >> 8454 ore from Blayney; 8176+ 48117.
> >> 8136 freight from Dubbo; 8180+48156+8105+48119; dubbo to Guerie.
> >> Tuesday 11/01
> >> 8821 empty grain to Nygan; 48140+48154; Nygan.
> >> 2NE1 empty ore to Cobar; 48s30+48s35+48s31+48s37; Nevertire to
> >> Hermidale.
> >> 8822 grain from Nygan 48154+48140; Nevertire.
> >> 8882 grain from Nevertire; 48162+ 48123; Trangie to Narromine
> >> 8888 grain from Wellington; 8140+48+48; Dubbo.
> >> Wednesday 12/01.
> >> 3EN2 ore from Cobar, NR99+NR60 (order reversed at Merrygoen) Narromine
> >> to Ulan (this train took nearly 12 hours to run between these two
> >> locations)
> >>
> >> Weather was clear and sunny, train controllers and crews extremely
> >> cooperative, and petrol expensive. A great trip with around two hours
> >> of great footage "in the can"
> >> Bevan Wall.
> >>
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