Re: NTs and NSUs

["Steve Palmano" <steve719@GTE.net>]

Aus loco discussion mailing list

For Sulzer engine sounds, try:

http://www.bursty.freeserve.co.uk/brdw/main.html
http://www.6lda28b.freeserve.co.uk/thrash/thrash.html

So far I've only checked out the 8 cylinder sounds (BR Class 33) from the
first site.  But I think that both sites have 6 cylinder Sulzers that would
be at least a first approximation to the NT's.

>From this and memories of 20+ years ago when I lived in the UK for a while,
I'd describe the Sulzer sound as like a slothful EE, without the pronounced
turbo whistle.

The above interent addresses came from:

 http://www.german-railways.com/Interactive/General/QsAndAs/QsAndAs.htm

which is worth a visit.

Cheers,

Steve Palmano




----- Original Message -----
From: Haby Steven <Haby@acer.edu.au>
To: 'Aus loco discussion mailing list' <Ausloco@listbot.com>
Sent: December 30, 1999 07:28 PM
Subject: NTs and NSUs


> Aus loco discussion mailing list
>
> Afternoon all,
>
> The discussions centred around the CR's NSU and NT class locomotives has
> been fascinating. I believe a book is being prepared on the NT
locomotives.
>
> A question that I have been wanting to ask for quite a while is ... what
> sound did/do they have. An Alco or EE burble? A GM type rumble?
>
> Alas the only NG CR locomotives I have seen/heard in action have been the
> NJs at Alice Springs back in 1980. A regret that I have is that I never
> travelled on the NAR or the NG CAR.
>
> Any assistance would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
> Steven G Haby
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> > ----------
> > From: Steve Palmano[SMTP:steve719@GTE.net]
> > Reply To: Aus loco discussion mailing list
> > Sent: Thursday, 30 December 1999 13:26
> > To: Aus loco discussion mailing list
> > Subject: Re: EE Locos
> >
> > Aus loco discussion mailing list
> >
> > Many thanks for this information.
> >
> > I suspect that the 9 notch controllers of the X and Y classes are rare.
> > But
> > there are quite a few gaps in my knowledge in respect of EE loco control
> > systems, so who knows, there might be others.
> >
> > More information begets more questions, thus re the Tasrail ZP and ZR
> > locos,
> > were these reconfigured with EM governors to have 8 discrete engine
> > speeds,
> > as with GM/GE/Alco practice, or did they revert to the previous EE
scheme
> > of
> > 3 (or 4) engine speeds coupled with control of main generator excitation
> > to
> > obtain the 8 control steps?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Steve Palmano
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Dix <mdix@mrt.tas.gov.au>
> > To: 'Aus loco discussion mailing list' <Ausloco@listbot.com>
> > Sent: December 14, 1999 06:13 PM
> > Subject: RE: EE Locos
> >
> >
> > > Aus loco discussion mailing list
> > >
> > > The following is some relavent info from Andrew Dix about the TGR X
and
> > Y
> > > locos
> > >
> > > X and Y were EM controlled, but with 9 notches which seems to be
> > uncommon.
> > > Among other things, the tram style controllers controlled engine speed
> > by
> > > way of
> > > solenoid valves on the engine governors.  Hence Xs and Ys only had
three
> > > working
> > > speeds on their engines.  If you wanted to play with engine speeds up
or
> > > down
> > > from these three you have to manipulate the hand throttle that is on
the
> > > side of
> > > the engine governors.
> > >
> > > The top plates of the controllers they obtained for the Ys were
numbered
> > up
> > > to
> > > notch 12, but in reality they only had 9 notches.  Wonder if the
> > controllers
> > > were second hand or just modified to suit the TGR?
> > >
> > > By way of extra info, the two Tasrail ZR/ZP class EE locos are now
being
> > > used in multi-unit with the EMD locos. This has only been possible
> > because
> > > of rewiring to the 74 volt system and replacing the infinitely
variable
> > EE
> > > contollers with notched controllers. There was initially a problem of
> > > compatibility between the three and four pipe system but the two locos
> > have
> > > now been modified to three pipe. Combinations so far noted have been
> > > ZR-DQ-ZP, ZR-QR-ZP and DQ-QR-ZP. They will use the EEs as lead locos
in
> > > preference to the EMD because of their better cab environment.
> > >
> > > Michael Dix
> > >
> > >
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